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#11
05-14-2007, 04:58 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
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After I bet 1300 my stack is about 7k. How the f do I get to put a last bet in with any sort of FE [/ QUOTE ] WTF is with people thinking fold equity is important. You are a favorite over JJ, a flip with T9, QJ, and not that big of a dog against bigger flush draws. Your hand crushes any range. 
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#12
05-14-2007, 05:00 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
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After I bet 1300 my stack is about 7k. How the f do I get to put a last bet in with any sort of FE [/ QUOTE ] Two people have checked already, the danger of the flop checking through is too great. If you are consistently leading flops like this with the other hands I mentioned, it's going to be a losing proposition for anyone to raise you anyway, and your first bet should have substantial fold equity.
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#13
05-14-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
obviously, but everyone is saying b/3bet all in to be able to put in the last bet. Might as well just say bet so you can get raised all in and happily call with your monster draw because putting in the last bet means nothing here
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#14
05-14-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
What's the right bet size to induce that all-in reraise from the guy behind you?
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#15
05-14-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
okay easy hand, the results just pissed me off because in this specific spot a c/r AI would've been better but 95% of the time leading out is better.
callduhbluff: bets 1250 Bushman: raises 6405 to 7655 and is all-in Rabscuttle: folds ComeOnPhish: folds callduhbluff: calls 6405 Bushman: shows [Jc Qc]
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#16
05-14-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
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obviously, but everyone is saying b/3bet all in to be able to put in the last bet. Might as well just say bet so you can get raised all in and happily call with your monster draw because putting in the last bet means nothing here [/ QUOTE ] well, it does set up pot for a shove if they c/c flop. but yeah, dude youre overthinking this. bet this flop because you have the best hand. honestly, we are almost never seeing a c/r here because both villains are good and nothing legit c/r's this flop with these stacks. so the 1300 is a good number in case we get allin on flop, but it's more just a question of vbetting this flop and setting up for a turn shove when we may have lost a ton of our equity
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#17
05-14-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
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[ QUOTE ] After I bet 1300 my stack is about 7k. How the f do I get to put a last bet in with any sort of FE [/ QUOTE ] WTF is with people thinking fold equity is important. You are a favorite over JJ, a flip with T9, QJ, and not that big of a dog against bigger flush draws. Your hand crushes any range. [/ QUOTE ] UH... You want them to fold. We have J high. They make a mistake when they fold, not when they get all in with us. edit: i'm not sure i'm saying that i want to c/r; just saying that your logic is weird/sucks.
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#19
05-14-2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
It depends on my image and opponents. In the $100r, I make a gay bet reasonably sure in the knowledge that some lag bastard will shove over the top. In general, I just shove here. That widens/narrows/throws-to-the-wind calling ranges but I don't give a toss as long as I'm all in before the next card.
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