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bigballz 05-14-2007 04:34 PM

$200r, flop hits me hard
 
converter is messed up, sorry. I've been playing normal, you all know the opponents. Best line here?

Seat 1: muchakja (5195 in chips)
Seat 2: iMsoLucky0 (5355 in chips)
Seat 4: Bushman (8105 in chips)
Seat 5: Rabscuttle (11438 in chips)
Seat 6: ComeOnPhish (9225 in chips)
Seat 7: dud711 (16480 in chips)
Seat 8: bigdogpckt5s (26738 in chips)
Seat 9: callduhbluff (9100 in chips)
Rabscuttle: posts small blind 75
ComeOnPhish: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to callduhbluff [8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
dud711: folds
bigdogpckt5s: folds
callduhbluff: raises 300 to 450
muchakja: folds
iMsoLucky0: folds
Bushman: calls 450
Rabscuttle: calls 375
ComeOnPhish: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Rabscuttle: checks
ComeOnPhish: checks
callduhbluff:...

timex 05-14-2007 04:37 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
Fold preflop, bet like 1350.

0evg0 05-14-2007 04:38 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
1300, 3bet shove if raised

Fiksdal 05-14-2007 04:40 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
bet/3bet AI. What else could you do?

RonFezBuddy 05-14-2007 04:41 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
Is a check raise stupid here?

Fiksdal 05-14-2007 04:45 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
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Is a check raise stupid here?

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Yeah because stack sizes are bad for it. b/3b AI let's us put in the last bet as well as taking a very strong line, maximizing FE. Clearly some of theese opponents are capable of folding top pair here (like ATs, TJ) to a 3bet AI.

Also, we'd like to get some money in on the flop here, and we really hate seeing a whiffed turn where we have also lost control of the pot.

ThePershore 05-14-2007 04:46 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
Bet and 3-bet all in > check raise IMO.

Foucault 05-14-2007 04:53 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
You should be leading hard at this flop with your big draws, your sets, and your overpairs.

bigballz 05-14-2007 04:54 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
After I bet 1300 my stack is about 7k. How the f do I get to put a last bet in with any sort of FE

RonFezBuddy 05-14-2007 04:55 PM

Re: $200r, flop hits me hard
 
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After I bet 1300 my stack is about 7k. How the f do I get to put a last bet in with any sort of FE

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This is what I was thinking regarding why a check raise might be good.


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