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Old 03-20-2007, 06:03 AM
Cablelessray Cablelessray is offline
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

<--- like to look people up

i think if variance doesn't matter to you, just making a good call against the range he has, i'm calling with a big range here. something along the lines of 99+,Axs+, AT+, KQs.

i think the guy is gonna show up with a hand losing to KQ over 50% of the time. if he turns over AK or AA, he's in the minority.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

now that i think about it, this early i probably add 88, 99, TT to my range and sometimes AQ, though id be more willing to fold AQ than the pairs only because of AK tendencies.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

this strikes me as either

- a donk just trying to steal with any two and overdoing it (sort of the continuation of the rb period)
- a monster repping a above
- a low to mid pair that just wants the chips

as usual read dependent but my inclination would be to say this usually a weak ace or 22-77.

i call with any ace 9 or higher, any pair 88+, and probably anuy suited broadway cards
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

I'm calling with 1010+ and AJs+
Most of the time i find a big donkey in this situation wanting to steal blinds at any cost. Still im calling with the above range, because i want to be a 65%+ favorite at least. Hoping for a KJ or a A4 or something like that.
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

I think like 66+/AJ+/ATs+/KQs as well.

Maybe Ari's right, though. I don't remember ever seeing someone's hand after they shoved here, so I have 0 evidence to back up my hunch that his range is all the good but not great hands.
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

77+/AT+

might call lighter out of curiousity
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

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I think like 55+/AJ+/ATs+/KQs as well.

Maybe Ari's right, though. I don't remember ever seeing someone's hand after they shoved here, so I have 0 evidence to back up my hunch that his range is all the good but not great hands.

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78s the last time I looked one up. And he sucked out. God knows what's right and my range depends on my mood but, in general, I'd like at least one K or A in my hand or 88+.
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

Would our range change if pokerdb says:

1) he has big profit

2) he has no stats
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

I would only call aa or kk, nothing else. Only because this move is so obviously bad that he probably has aa. Its kinda strange I know but without a read why risk all your stack on a hunch. Thats just me.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: 30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

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I'm calling with 1010+ and AJs+
Most of the time i find a big donkey in this situation wanting to steal blinds at any cost. Still im calling with the above range, because i want to be a 65%+ favorite at least. Hoping for a KJ or a A4 or something like that.

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