25/50 Hand 2: 97s

[Smarty]

You need to lead out here.

[CardSharpCook]

chk/call, yo.

[esspo]

Seems like a pretty easy bet to me. The bad player is going to pay you off. If the passive BB raises its probably a safe fold.

The only question is whether you call if EP raises. I think you call because he is the bad agressive type. If he was the bad passive type it would be a clear bet-fold.

[cdlarmore]

I hesitate to fire, seems possible he may have boated the turn, but I still do fire. Ill take the risk he has not I hate to loose some river bets since he may not have much faith in his AA or killed draw as well?

[cgrohman]

Bet/call. I dont think its close.

[Hoi Polloi]

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Due to somebody leaving on their button or blind, it's one of those hands where there are two BBs and the button posts a SB. I am directly left of the button but post the BB.

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WTF this is I don't know, but it seems very wrong. Was everyone else required to put up a live straddle?



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You've played live before, right? It's hard to imagine you've never seen this situation.

OK, say that in the previous hand, the button is seat 1. Seat 2 is the SB, seat 3 is the BB, and "hero" is in seat 4 and is UTG.

Seat 2 busts out, and now the chair is empty. The button has to then move to seat 3. But he hasn't paid his SB yet. "Hero" in seat 4 hasn't paid his BB yet, but now he's directly left of the button. So seat 3 pays the SB on the button, Hero posts a BB, and seat 5, like all players two seats to the left of the button, posts a BB.

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I've a played maybe 500 hours live in Vegas, Foxwoods and AC and I've never seen this. In that situation, the button moves to the empty seat and 3 & 4 post the blinds. Have you seen this scenario in Vegas?

[Nate.]

Joker --

I'd check and call. I think many here are underestimating how often we chop if we win.

If you feel comfortable folding to a raise, then betting has to be better, but given your descriptions I don't think you can be too comfortable. So check, I think.

--Nate

[private joker]

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I've a played maybe 500 hours live in Vegas, Foxwoods and AC and I've never seen this. In that situation, the button moves to the empty seat and 3 & 4 post the blinds. Have you seen this scenario in Vegas?

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Interesting. In California they never put the button in an empty seat. It sounds absurd to me that any cardrooms in America actually do.

[Hoi Polloi]

I sent you a link to a post I made about this to the B&M forum. It is a Cali thing by the looks of it.

I think the only scenario at play is where the SB walks away without posting. If BB walks then next guy posts BB, if button walks then he misses his button. But if SB walks there's no one to post the SB. How you get from there to having 2 other plays post 3x SB doesn't make any sense to me. But whatever. If I ever get a chance to play in Cali I'll see for myself.

Cheers.

[Joe Tall]

Bet and call a raise.