25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

Due to somebody leaving on their button or blind, it's one of those hands where there are two BBs and the button posts a SB. I am directly left of the button but post the BB.

I now have some vague reads on these guys:

EP: pretty much a total idiot, can have anything, plays aggressively most of the time, can't think at all, takes 15 minutes per decision and doesn't read hands
Button: semi-thinking LAG but plays poorly
BB: passive
MP2: passive, tightish

EP limps, MP2 raises, Button semi-CCs, I call with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], BB calls, EP calls.

5 to the flop for 10 SBs.

Flop gives me the most monster draw ever. 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Double-gutted to the nut straight with the flush draw. I lead out, BB raises, EP cold-calls, PFR folds, Button cold-calls, I 3-bet, BB calls, EP now caps it, Button calls.

Turn is the worst card in the deck: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I check, BB checks, EP bets, Button calls, I call, BB calls.

River is the 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. What now??

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

you have to lead here. it's going to check through way way too often.

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

Bet and hope nobody raises. It might be possible to convince me a check is good here though.

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

bet/call based on your read of how aggro and stupid EP is. I could find a fold if raised by some people on river here.

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

Bet. EP is calling if he doesn't have a boat. So checking to induce bluff doesn't make sense. Bet, probably crying call if EP raises based only on your description of EP(dumb enough to raise with pp?, large pot)

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

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Due to somebody leaving on their button or blind, it's one of those hands where there are two BBs and the button posts a SB. I am directly left of the button but post the BB.

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WTF this is I don't know, but it seems very wrong. Was everyone else required to put up a live straddle?

For the hand:

Well, I guess it comes down to whether you think EP has the boat. The turn suggests the others were drawing. By betting you give the boat a chance to raise. By checking you get to showdown for 1 bet or fold when one of the passives comes alive. It's going to be tough enough when BB bets his 7 into EP who raises with 2 pair.

So, I think betting is going to make SD too expensive often enough that you want to check OOP and look to SD for 1 bet.

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

Bet and probably fold. Depends on the player, live players tend not to raise PP on a 4 to a straight board.

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

Are you afraid of a PP here?

I suppose if you thought EP is done being aggressive and none of the others will raise then betting would be the right choice. With a vulnerable 1 card straight a lot could go wrong here though.

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

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Due to somebody leaving on their button or blind, it's one of those hands where there are two BBs and the button posts a SB. I am directly left of the button but post the BB.

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WTF this is I don't know, but it seems very wrong. Was everyone else required to put up a live straddle?



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You've played live before, right? It's hard to imagine you've never seen this situation.

OK, say that in the previous hand, the button is seat 1. Seat 2 is the SB, seat 3 is the BB, and "hero" is in seat 4 and is UTG.

Seat 2 busts out, and now the chair is empty. The button has to then move to seat 3. But he hasn't paid his SB yet. "Hero" in seat 4 hasn't paid his BB yet, but now he's directly left of the button. So seat 3 pays the SB on the button, Hero posts a BB, and seat 5, like all players two seats to the left of the button, posts a BB.

Re: 25/50 Hand 2: 97s
 

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Bet and hope nobody raises.

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I probably call a raise by EP, but maybe not the others if they're as weak as you say.