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Old 01-05-2007, 05:06 PM
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:09 PM
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Big pass line bets are for suckers. Free odds is where it's at.

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free suites is where it's at.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:30 PM
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Big pass line bets are for suckers. Free odds is where it's at.

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That same 1K as a odds bet instead would have won an additional 2K.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Craps > NL Hold\'em

Someone should really offer a service:

"Will knock your drunk ass unconcious and throw you in your hotel room if you are intoxicated with over $5k in winnings for only 10%"

$500 >>>>> $0

Just go around casinos doing drunk people a favor.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:34 PM
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Craps is for suckers. Free odds is where it's at.

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Old 01-05-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Craps > NL Hold\'em

it couldn't be the same $1k, I only had 1 $1k chip.

Oh, and evidently they comped me RFB. They know a baller when they see one...

To the Nits who think they needed to explain the concept of 'true odds' [not free, they cost you extra $ to play and variance] - thank you ever so much!

You do realize this is the BBV forum, not the 'Basic craps strategies for n00bs' forum? good.

The odds on a $1k come-out are the same as on a $25 come-out roll. Nothing has changed except the balla-ness of the wager.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:51 PM
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it couldn't be the same $1k, I only had 1 $1k chip.

Oh, and evidently they comped me RFB. They know a baller when they see one...

To the Nits who think they needed to explain the concept of 'true odds' [not free, they cost you extra $ to play and variance] - thank you ever so much!

You do realize this is the BBV forum, not the 'Basic craps strategies for n00bs' forum? good.

The odds on a $1k come-out are the same as on a $25 come-out roll. Nothing has changed except the balla-ness of the wager.

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I meant put the grand as odds & table minimum as your line bet. I was specifically talking about the odds payoff (2x).
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Craps > NL Hold\'em

very nice, but from other stories i've heard poker is still >>> craps (I know it's hard to believe).
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:04 PM
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very nice, but from other stories i've heard poker is still >>> craps (I know it's hard to believe).

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That depends on how you look at it. If you take all the crazy, 1,000 to 1 long shot bets that a crap table has & lump them together with the more even money bets & come up with a mathmatical mean for that game....then yeah....poker has a better EV. Waaaay better.

But, if a player stays away from "hopping the hardways", "world bets", & the "hi lo yo's" on the come out & such and just sticks to the basics where he has a much higher EV against the house...then...some poker games don't necessarily have a large edge over craps.

But, at the end of the day, you are still playing against the house & the game is tilted in their favor just as any other.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:08 PM
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very nice, but from other stories i've heard poker is still >>> craps (I know it's hard to believe).

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That depends on how you look at it. If you take all the crazy, 1,000 to 1 long shot bets that a crap table has & lump them together with the more even money bets & come up with a mathmatical mean for that game....then yeah....poker has a better EV. Waaaay better.

But, if a player stays away from "hopping the hardways", "world bets", & the "hi lo yo's" on the come out & such and just sticks to the basics where he has a much higher EV against the house...then...some poker games don't necessarily have a large edge over craps.

But, at the end of the day, you are still playing against the house & the game is tilted in their favor just as any other.

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Actually....no. OP won money on craps and broke even on poker. Therefore craps>poker.
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