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Old 02-05-2006, 04:28 AM
Larry David Larry David is offline
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I raise and prepare to go broke if he has me beat.

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To you and everyone else who said this. Why? I like better answers then the old push and pray.
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:31 AM
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I explicitly stated he wasn't a level 3 thinker, but could also do "advanced plays" by "mistake." I agree with everything you said afterward and I evaluated all that before I made my decision. But you are forgetting the action thus far and what type of player he is. Why do we have to get to the point where I put another $1200 or $400 at risk? There has to be good enough cause. Is there?
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:38 AM
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As for folding or not preflop. I thought about it for a second after he made it $200 more on what I should do about this hand. I decided to take it cautiously, and go ahead with position.

There is $735 in the pot and I need to put up $200 to try and win this. My best case scenario would spike an A or maybe K and trump KK or QQ and find out fast if he had AA. I thought at the price and position I could do this for the cost. It was the flop that had to make me think further.
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: Weird hand tonight (Wynn 10/25)

neo... I fold as well. But that is a product of us being in a different game than a live game. Online this is an easy fold, live I would still fold but it may not be so easy.

Zee - as for going broke here. That's simply a terrible idea. He 3 bet preflop. Either has has a suited connector, AA-QQ or AK. Maybe if hes terrible he has A J-AQ but that seems far fetched. I fold.
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:46 AM
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tough decision preflop - it looks like your up against one of four hands: AA KK QQ or AK maybe. I don't mind the call since you have position but, as you said, you have to find out if he has AA or KK FAST! that means ON THE FLOP.

I also don't mind a fold here, preflop, but it's pretty much 50-50. How ya feeling?

That flop is . There are no words for it. Just blah! If you take the range that I put him on before, then you can lay it down. easily. best case scenario is chop. not goot. very very very tough, but necessary laydown.

i highly doubt he is making the 3bet preflop with TT. MAYBBBEEEEE JJ but then he leads flop. if he had JJ then congrats. next hand. I don't like putting money in on that flop after thinking about it.
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:53 AM
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Revlis - Point well taken.
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:56 AM
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I folded to his flop bet. I decided if it was Axx or Kxx I could maybe see what he does and win the big pot for that little $200 investment. Otherwise I would get away. This flop just screamed blah and what I was thinking may of been wrong preflop. I decided his odds of having a set were too high and the possibility of running K's were the same for me as needing any A or K.

He folded all nonchalant like face down after I mucked.
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Old 02-05-2006, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: Weird hand tonight (Wynn 10/25)

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This seems awful.

I see no greater value in raising than calling. Raising makes life VERY easy for the villain. He can safely fold literally every worse hand save AQ (which is ridiculously unlikely) and he will jam with better ones.

I see no reason to get it all in on the flop. plz enlighten me if you see something that I'm missing.
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Weird hand tonight (Wynn 10/25)

so he fired out less than half the pot here? i like calling, seeing what happens on the turn. i mean.. what are your scare cards? im probably not going to be able to fold this hand, but i duno if i like getting it in on the flop. holla
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Old 02-05-2006, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Weird hand tonight (Wynn 10/25)

All depends on how many hands other than QQ+/AK you can put in his range. It doesn't take much.

Ways to make AA/KK/QQ = 5. Ways to make AK = 4. Ways to make JJ/TT = 12.
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