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Old 11-21-2006, 04:19 AM
Cormia Cormia is offline
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

With the very real chance of being wrong, the paradigm I use to determine when to check behind involves how likely villian is to pay off multiple value bets, how many draws there are on the board, but mostly how likely I feel it is that villian peeled with a draw vs. peeling with a pair vs. a set, i.e. whether I need to charge, value bet or block for the river, and that is much more read dependent.

Here maaaaybe KQ will pay off a bet on the turn, while checking should increase the chance a weaker hand paying us off. However, checking the turn also obligates us to call just about anything reasonable, regardless of what drops, so I think the call is just fine.

Also, because hero reraised preflop, firing again on the turn defines our hand to almost exactly AA/AK/JJ making it even easier to play more optimally.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:23 AM
novel20 novel20 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

If you check turn for pot control, then you don't freaking
pay off huge to a flush river. You fold.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:25 AM
Green Kool Aid Green Kool Aid is offline
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

given that you checked behind it's an easy call, but i like betting 40 on the turn here.
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:29 AM
Bavid Denyamine Bavid Denyamine is offline
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

I agree with just calling and also that you should have bet the turn. Pot control really shouldn't be a concern when you flop as big as you did. But, given the way the SB played the hand, I don't think you should fold. It smells like a pocket pair like tens or nines and he's trying to steal the pot on the river after you slowed down.
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