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#11
11-01-2006, 01:31 AM
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Re: hand 2 is good, hand 1 I don\'t think so
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You c/r the flop and he 3-bets. Fold? [/ QUOTE ] Obviously [ QUOTE ] How about the turn donk, it's a b/f? [/ QUOTE ] It wouldn't be a bet/call flop donk > preflop 3-bet > flop fold > flop peel The reason I prefer a flop fold over a peel is because I think this villain will bet the turn most of the time. You can't call most turns so that peel is worthless. In this case, the only reason villain didn't bet the turn is because he thought he had a showdownable hand. If he had garbage, he'd have bet the turn and probably the river too. flop peel vs. flop fold is pretty close but I wouldn't do either one. 
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#12
11-01-2006, 02:15 AM
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Re: hand 2 is good, hand 1 I don\'t think so
I guess I could by donk/call somewhat. We bet to get him to make a mistake by calling with nothing. I don't like donk/fold though. Donking the flop is encouraging a bluff from a LAG. I don't see much difference pf 3-bet and a c/r. Both turn our hand into a bluff unless he's calling down A/K-high from the flop and not just for one bet on the river. Therefore I'd only take those lines if I thought he was capable of folding too much.
I like the following lines (in no particular order): -c/c, c/c, play poker -c/c, b/f, b/f -b/c If he calls, c/c, c/c. If he raises, calldown good turns/rivers
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#13
11-01-2006, 03:09 AM
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Re: hand 2 is good, hand 1 I don\'t think so
Yea, a LAG will often try to steal again against a donk bet. So I do like the c/c, b/f line. I've been 3-betting preflop, bet, evaluate. I used to do the c/r. But I stopped because then you have to bet again on the turn more often than you would if you had 3-bet preflop. I still do the peel once in a while but never against a LAG. Peel, donk/fold is solid. I've never done it but it might be best against a guy who peels nearly every flop.
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#14
11-01-2006, 04:58 PM
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Re: Reading too much; Couple hands vs. LAG
Hand one is fine.
Hand two isn't a value bet, too many better hands he can have. An ace is quite likely given his line, as are hearts. Also, he might bluff check/raise, so it's just not worthwhile. He can also have a better jack.
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#15
11-01-2006, 05:02 PM
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Re: Reading too much; Couple hands vs. LAG
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Hand one is fine [/ QUOTE ] What do you think of playing hand one in one of these ways: -c/c, b/f, b/f -b/c If he calls, c/c, c/c. If he raises, calldown good turns/rivers
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