Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

[iron81]

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Did anyone hear actually read the report to see exactly what it said? Or, is the fact that CBS reported it enough?

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I think the New York Times broke the story. But no one here has read it because the document itself hasn't been leaked. The reports are based on interviews "more than a dozen" anonymous government officials.

NYT

[kurto]

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Except Im not speculating about anything. Now I remember why you were on ignore. I wont make the same mistake again.

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It seems like you're arbitrarily dismissing the findings of a report by 16 agencies that have a lot of expertise in analyzing this sort of thing. I can see why you would ignore me. After all, I have more faith in the report then you do. Better if you ignore people who disagree with you.

[Utah]

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Did anyone hear actually read the report to see exactly what it said? Or, is the fact that CBS reported it enough?

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I think the New York Times broke the story. But no one here has read it because the document itself hasn't been leaked. The reports are based on interviews "more than a dozen" anonymous government officials.

NYT

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[SLP]

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I don't agree. Before the 2nd Iraq War, terrorist attacks were increasing against the USA.
Before the 2nd Iraq War there were:
1. the African Embassy Bombings,
2. the attack on the USS Cole,
3. the first bombing of the World Trade center, and
4. the second attack on the world trade center on 9/11.
*And this is NOT a comprehensive list!

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As far as we know, Bin Laden played a major role in all of these. Bin Laden was sent into hiding because of our actions in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

[iron81]

I don't know why I'm taking you seriously because the NYT has the finest collection of journalists in the country, but the Washington Post came out with the story at the same time and they were probably sharing the information.

[Copernicus]

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I don't agree. Before the 2nd Iraq War, terrorist attacks were increasing against the USA.
Before the 2nd Iraq War there were:
1. the African Embassy Bombings,
2. the attack on the USS Cole,
3. the first bombing of the World Trade center, and
4. the second attack on the world trade center on 9/11.
*And this is NOT a comprehensive list!

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As far as we know, Bin Laden played a major role in all of these. Bin Laden was sent into hiding because of our actions in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

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What does it being Afgh. vs Iraq have to do with his post or the topic, which is growth of terrorism worldwide?

[Utah]

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I don't know why I'm taking you seriously because the NYT has the finest collection of journalists in the country, but the Washington Post came out with the story at the same time and they were probably sharing the information.

[/ QUOTE ]So, you need no more that a newspaper telling you it is true to believe something? I guess I can see that because god knows that a newpaper has never slanted, twisted, misunderstood, or faked information before. Of course, there are those of us who like to actually see the info for ourselves before we choose to believe it is true or not.

[evil twin]

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Was really that hard to see this coming 3 years ago?

Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

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No, sadly it was pretty obvious this was going to fuel extremism despite what the Bush apologists will have you believe. Many commentators stated that this would be the exact result of the Iraq war.

The idea that all these people were going to become suicide bombers anyway and now we can convientiently fight them in Iraq instead of on American soil is just about as absurd as the idea that invading Iraq was about spreading Democracy. Sadly people still seem to believe both.

We've mentioned internment in the Irish situation before in previous threads, and how that acted as the best recruitment tool the IRA (etc) ever had. In that case the people recruited actually had "stuff" as well, like houses and jobs and a "rich" western way of life. Imagine how many more people will turn to extremism in a less developed country and situation.

[anatta]

Remember in summer of 2004 that supposed CIA "assessment" about how worst case Iraq was going to degenerate into a civil war and best case there would be serious ethnic violence. How we were told that this was just a hypothetical looksy in the future or whatever the spin explanation was.

So experts are saying that War has destablized the region and created more terrorist. Inconceivable.

[steve9789]

Just a quick question for you. What if the New York Times ran a headline which read: "Civil Rights Movement Said to Worsen Threat of Racism." The article tells you "Efforts by the Justice Department to end racial discrimination in the South has helped spawn a new wave of racial animosity." You read further and discover that recruitment of members into the Ku Klux Klan has increased since the federal government stepped up its efforts to bring the vote to Southern blacks.

Tell me .. .would it be time to pull back and let the racists and bigots just have their way? Or would our determination to go forward with the civil rights struggle merely be strengthened?

Democrats, desperate to do anything to reverse their slide in the polls, are jumping on this story big time, with no small amount of help from the media

Look closely at the Democratic position here. They are saying that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq because it is causing more terrorism. In other words, we made them mad. We shouldn't fight wars because it might make the Islamic terrorists upset. That being the case, can you imagine how mad the Islamic fascists would be if we caught or killed Osama bin Laden? That is, if he isn't already dead.

Maybe we should call off the hunt for Osama, Mullah Omar, and the rest of them! After all, if we catch them it's just going to piss these pissants off. Can't have that, can we?