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Old 09-01-2006, 08:33 PM
riverdeuce riverdeuce is offline
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Default Re: Far too weak passive?

Cap the river
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Far too weak passive?

Cap the flop, you want narrow down the field if you spike a pair and give it a better chance of holding up. Cap the river. I never used to this without the non-nut flush. I've been doing it routinely lately and extracting a lot more bets.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Far too weak passive

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Preflop: QTs is a little too weak a hand for me to open at UTG+2, unless the table pretty loose passive. Did you cringe when the button raised?



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Preflop is fine. Raising is fine too. Button's raise should not make you cringe here. I don't mind being in a 6 player pot with QTs for 2 bets preflop.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Far too weak passive?

Uh, yes. I would play it the same until the river, where I'm certainly 3-betting with the third nuts. CO looks like a lower flush or two pair most of the time.
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Old 09-02-2006, 07:27 AM
Smoke em' Smoke em' is offline
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TURN: C/R is good, since betting out will knock out both opponents more often than not.

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What? Why would betting knock out both opponents? So far the CO has done nothing but call and the button has done nothing but raise. Does this seem unlikely:

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

I really have to disagree that betting out is likely to fold both opponents. I think the c/r is more likely to fold the CO since we expect the button to bet, meaning that we would raise and the CO would have to coldcall two.
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Old 09-02-2006, 11:35 AM
YesMehFriend YesMehFriend is offline
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Default Re: Far too weak passive?

I dont think you can reraise the flop for value with just 2 callers (your pair outs esp. the tens might be worth little). Therefore I like the call.

Turn looks somewhat difficult if button doesnt have an ace he'll often check such an extremely scary card. CO didnt do anything but call up to now so chances are he'll check too. Therefore your c/r might fail often and more over if it works it might scare out some weaker holdings of CO (and button might fold some pps too).
Donking the turn is a good play imo.

The river seems difficult without a read but since many players might raise here with less than the nut flush (he could have a jack-high-flush, maybe even a rivered straight)I like to 3-bet it.
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