I thought this was fairly straightforward

[soah]

This looks terrible.

[ckboddic]

have to be up against super tight opponent to fold this, and you said you don't know much about him...so call. had similar hand today in 10/20, reraised initial raiser with kk...got reraised. flop was 484...he pushed...i called...he had qq and I took it down. jj+ or maybe even 1010 isn't out of opponents range here.

[Nielsio]

It can be player dependent, but generally, when someone puts in that much preflop, there is only one move left. What else can he do? Can he bet any less? If he does, the money will go in anyway. You don't expect him to check and fold do you?

[Garland]

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Two limps, cutoff raises to 55. I reraise to 155 from the button with pocket kings. Small blind folds. Big blind reraises to 500. Everyone folds to me. I call. 1080 in the pot. Flop is 9 high and uncoordinated. He moves all in for about 1100. I fold.

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The player that told me that I butchered the hand said that "nothing changed" with the flop.

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Posting without reading the responses, the other player is absolutely right. This is 6-max and BB's range should be high. You should call KK all day (even if an A appears on the flop). If he's re-raising the BB, he should be committing all his chips on the flop no matter what comes with his stack size. If you truly believe he has AA, your move should be to fold to the re-raise pre-flop as you're nowhere near deep enough to take the flop for a set. With a flop 9-high the scenario doesn't change; if you believe you were ahead pre-flop (reason you call and trap with KK), you must call the flop all-in as well.

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I went back and forth with him about it in the chat, and ultimately, he asked me to post it.

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I hope you don't regularly discuss strategy on open chat. I don't like educating my opposition.

Garland

[flawless_victory]

man has the forum quality gone down in the past few mnths...

well played samo, but this isnt the kind of thing i would post in a public forum...

[NaobisDad]

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man has the forum quality gone down in the past few mnths...

well played samo, but this isnt the kind of thing i would post in a public forum...

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But now that you did, i'd like to hear a little more about how you narrowed villain's range to 1 hand.

[Gus Spangles]

samo isn't saying he is playing the KK for set value here. he is saying when he is re-raised preflop he assigns a certain % to villain having AA. this % is not high enough for him to fold preflop in through a combination of possibly having the best hand and through outflopping.

however villain's flop actions dramatically raise his % of AA to a point where he can comfortably fold.

that said, i don't like the fold. at all. also, some type of read on the relative assumed skill level of the villain would be nice. if you left one out because you didn't have one, i obviously still dislike the fold.

i have been shown hands other than AA far too often in this spot to fold. add in any history or his knowledge of how aggressive you can be and it gets even worse.

[raptor517]

fold preflop. otherwise, 100% standard fold on flop imo. holla

[mikech]

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I disagree. I think that while aces is a possiblity for him (after all, he did put in a third raise), I do not have enough information to assume that and fold over his hand range. But when I get the additional bit of information of him moving all-in on the flop, then I am convinced enough that he has aces that I can fold.

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how often is a typical player going to 3bet preflop, out of position, for 1/3 of his stack, and then NOT push the flop for just a pot-size bet? i don't see how you're gonna pick up additional info with any sort of frequency.

[tr3cool]

What do you think villan would do if he had Queens