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Old 06-25-2006, 05:59 PM
Manhammer Manhammer is offline
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Default Re: Overcall this river?

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Given your read + size of the pot + closing the action, I'd probably go ahead and call.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:02 PM
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I agree with grandma. Apparently your hand was good enough to chase to the river with little more than a gutshot and an overcard. Isn't it worth 1 more call when you hit your ace?

I think LAAs are most effective when their style causes their opponents to loosen up and gamble with them. I think refusing to follow in their path by remaining semi-tight and continue to play your game is your most effective weapon against them. Play solid holdings and let them bet to you. CR the heck out of them when you hold the goods.
Never bluff them. That's what I do anyway.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Overcall this river?

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On the turn, I gave myself 3.5 Q outs and 1+ A out, so wth the pot laying me 11:1, I called.

When the A fell on the river and it was a bet and two calls to me, I took almost the entire time trying to decide what to do. I froze up. I couldn't see any possible way that a pr of A's would win. I folded.

I think if you count the A as an out on the turn you have to at call when it hits on the river (except the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]). If you don't count the A as an out you are a little thin to call the turn and might want to fold there.

MP2 99, CO T4 (), UTG KJo.

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Ah this is not true [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Old 06-25-2006, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Overcall this river?

Hi Jaran.

No folding allowed.

All anyone has done (with the exception of aggro guy) is call. How is that scary to TP2K here?

One very LPP guy. Villain apparently pushes any piece. Basic hand reading suggests that "solid" guy doesn't beat us (he raises 2-pair or better somewhere along the way if your description is even close to accurate).

You can make a pretty good case for raising despite the complications of MP2 3-bombing us, but I don't hate a call. Folding is ridiculous closing the action.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:29 PM
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On the turn, I gave myself 3.5 Q outs and 1+ A out, so wth the pot laying me 11:1, I called.

When the A fell on the river and it was a bet and two calls to me, I took almost the entire time trying to decide what to do. I froze up. I couldn't see any possible way that a pr of A's would win. I folded.

I think if you count the A as an out on the turn you have to at call when it hits on the river (except the A ). If you don't count the A as an out you are a little thin to call the turn and might want to fold there.

MP2 99, CO T4 (), UTG KJo.

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Ah this is not true

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What he said. You most emphatically do not suck [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:45 PM
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Jaran,
It's a no-brainer call if you're HU, right? I don't understand why the overcallers would discourage you to call in this spot when it looks like they're just padding the pot. It's possible one of them has a stupid A3/K8 2pair or whatever, but you have both of them beaten more than half the time.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:52 PM
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Jaran,
It's a no-brainer call if you're HU, right? I don't understand why the overcallers would discourage you to call in this spot when it looks like they're just padding the pot. It's possible one of them has a stupid A3/K8 2pair or whatever, but you have both of them beaten more than half the time.

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Yeah, I pretty much blew it on the river. I spent the next few minutes raging about the apt. about missing that call. The strange thing was I had "Never fold in a big pot for one bet" going through my head and I still folded. Meh.

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