Top10 college teams (10/4/2006)

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Michigan will be fine, though the Iowa game will be tougher. If they can get through those two games, they can cruise to the OSU game, and Manningham will have plenty of time to recover.

Also, LSU sucks. People seem to think that talent equates to being a good team. It's funny how people like MyTurn2Raise can continue saying that LSU and the like are great teams when they cannot even beat any halfway decent team. Also, Auburn loses to Arkansas and barely beats South Carolina, another great example of an SEC team that people can't stop sucking off, but who have shown nothing great.

Try looking outside the SEC, there are a lot of great teams in the country, and very few (1, maybe 2) are in the SEC.

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LSU has beaten:
Louisiana-Lafayette (3-2 against terrible teams)
Arizona (2-4)
Tulane (2-3, with a 38 point loss to Houston)
Mississippi State (1-5)

Combined record: 8-14

and lost to:

Florida (6-0)
Auburn (5-1)

Record: 11-1

So LSU has lost to both teams it has played who meet any basic competency requirements. And beaten 4 schools full of retards trying to hump doorknobs. So I'm not sure what we can say about them, other than they're not top 10, and not bottom half of the NCAA. Otherwise, until they beat someone who isn't entirely incompetent, I have a hard time placing them highly.

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It's how you win/lose. Losing to 4 points against Auburn means you're good. Averaging 5 TD's in your margin of victory also means you're good.

I will be very surprised if LSU gets more than 4 losses by the end of the year (1 to Tenn, another due to random flukiness).

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Try looking outside the SEC, there are a lot of great teams in the country, and very few (1, maybe 2) are in the SEC.

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ummm....I've watched all but one Michigan game this year. I watch just about every major conference game. If I don't see it live, I review game film on most of the others. I'm from the midwest and watch the Big10 more than any other conference. This really isn't a fair criticism.


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All I'm saying is that if Michigan played LSU and I was offered even money odds, I'd jump on LSU. Same goes for Auburn and Florida. I can only wonder how Michigan would've faired playing Auburn or LSU's schedule to this point. LSU lost two considerably tougher games than any Michigan has played. LSU did the dirty work at Auburn and the breaks just didn't go their way. LSU actually deserved that game more. In Florida, the game between LSU-Florida was evenly played, but LSU made a three extremely bone-headed plays that made the outcome of the game.

There are not many great teams in the country. It's mostly parity and a suckhole. Michigan was becoming a great team, but, as I pointed out in an earlier thread, they lack depth at the skilled position. Without Manningham, this offense will look much different....ala last year. Becoming one-dimensional equals death. While very possible, I just don't see Michigan winning their next two games. I give them about 65% chance of winning v Penn State and 70% v Iowa. Those seem to be fair estimates, but that still means they are less than 50% to win both.

Penn State can beat them because Penn State's young corners are becoming great and can lock down the threat(?) of Arrington and Breaston. This will free up the Nittany Lions great linebackers to help the somewhat disadvantaged d-line in stopping the Wolverine run attack. If they can force Henne into obvious passing situations, they can force Michigan into mistakes. On the other side of the ball, Michigan hasn't played a single team all year with the gamebrakers that Penn St has. While I expect Michigan to hold Penn St down, it wouldn't surprise me to see Galen Hall orchestrate just enough big plays to win. FWIW-I predict a 20-13 Michigan win, but it will be highly contested.
Iowa can beat Michigan because the Hawkeye defense is designed to hold down teams without playmakers. The Hawks plain vanilla defense is boring to watch, but very effective. It's a question of whether Michigan can consistently chip their way down the field. However, I expect the Iowa offense to struggle big time. This will be another low-scoring affair that I think Michigan wins 20-10.
However, both games are in much more doubt now than when Manningham was around. Before, I would've put Michigan at 75% this weekend and near 85% next weekend to win.


Believe me, I don't try to suck off the SEC. While they have passionate fans, they also have the most arrogant fans in the country (especially at LSU). They even make Michigan fans look good. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I get sick of hearing how they are the best conference every year no matter what. In general, they are, but it's not every year and the gap isn't nearly as wide as those Southerners would have you think.

I also don't think the SEC is the best conference this year, but I believe they have more good teams than any other conferece. I think the best conference is the PAC10.



One respected computer index, the dunkel , still has LSU at #5. Michigan is ahead at #4, but the Manningham injury really hurts them. Also, Michigan's toughest opponent thus far, Notre Dame, is #21 in the dunkel and #36 in the sagarin predictor (#19 overall).

[mmbt0ne]

The Dunkel you linked hasn't been updated for the past week's games. Example: UGA is still 5-0 in that ranking.

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Try looking outside the SEC, there are a lot of great teams in the country, and very few (1, maybe 2) are in the SEC.

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I can guaran-[censored]-tee you that MyTurn2Raise (and myself)watch way more college football than you could ever want to. I promise you. I'm also fairly confident in saying that because he does watch a [censored] more than you do that he KNOWS more than you do.

LSU would thoroughly whip 7 of the 11 teams in the B10, would beat 9 of 11, and can play for 4 quarters with 11 of 11. The opposite is not the case for any B10 school.

Ohio State would thoroughly whip 5 of 12, beat 7 of 12, and play for 4 quarters with 12 of 12. Ohio State, over 10 games, would not beat LSU, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, or Georgia more than 5 times.

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LSU would thoroughly whip 7 of the 11 teams in the B10, would beat 9 of 11, and can play for 4 quarters with 11 of 11. The opposite is not the case for any B10 school.

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This part is true.
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Ohio State would thoroughly whip 5 of 12, beat 7 of 12, and play for 4 quarters with 12 of 12. Ohio State, over 10 games, would not beat LSU, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, or Georgia more than 5 times.

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This part is beyond completely crazy.

[pirateboy]

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LSU would thoroughly whip 7 of the 11 teams in the B10, would beat 9 of 11, and can play for 4 quarters with 11 of 11. The opposite is not the case for any B10 school.

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This part is true.
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Ohio State would thoroughly whip 5 of 12, beat 7 of 12, and play for 4 quarters with 12 of 12. Ohio State, over 10 games, would not beat LSU, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, or Georgia more than 5 times.

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This part is beyond completely crazy.

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Let me clarify. I am not speaking of 2006 alone. I clearly think tOSU is the best team in the country. I think if tOSU and Texas played 10 times, tOSU would win 5 times, at most 6. The talent levels at Ohio State, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, UGA, Tennessee, Florida, and Michigan are barely noticeable.

[mmbt0ne]

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Let me clarify. I am not speaking of 2006 alone. I clearly think tOSU is the best team in the country. I think if tOSU and Texas played 10 times, tOSU would win 5 times, at most 6. The talent levels at Ohio State, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, UGA, Tennessee, Florida, and Michigan are barely noticeable.

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WTF? These rankings are clearly for 2006 only. Why are you trying to justify your selections with saying otherwise? tOSU would win 8/10 against any SEC team not named Florida.

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Let me clarify. I am not speaking of 2006 alone. I clearly think tOSU is the best team in the country. I think if tOSU and Texas played 10 times, tOSU would win 5 times, at most 6. The talent levels at Ohio State, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, UGA, Tennessee, Florida, and Michigan are barely noticeable.

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WTF? These rankings are clearly for 2006 only. Why are you trying to justify your selections with saying otherwise? tOSU would win 8/10 against any SEC team not named Florida.

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I'd take Tenn +400. Otherwise, I completely agree.

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Let me clarify. I am not speaking of 2006 alone. I clearly think tOSU is the best team in the country. I think if tOSU and Texas played 10 times, tOSU would win 5 times, at most 6. The talent levels at Ohio State, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, UGA, Tennessee, Florida, and Michigan are barely noticeable.

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WTF? These rankings are clearly for 2006 only. Why are you trying to justify your selections with saying otherwise? tOSU would win 8/10 against any SEC team not named Florida.

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8/10?

I think that's a bit high but I agree with you mostly.
vs UF 4/10(bias)
vs LSU 6/10
vs UT 7/10
vs Auburn 7/10
vs Ark 7/10
vs UGA 8/10