A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

Bond18 · #1 04-23-2007, 03:51 AM

First hand, starting bank 3k. Rizen and i have played plenty before, but i coudln't say what he thinks of me, but know's i'm not a donk.

Blinds 10/20, hero holds AA on the button, Rizen is SB.

Preflop: Folds to hero, hero raises to 60, Rizen reraises to 200, BB folds, hero calls.

Flop: 9 3 2 rainbow (pot 420)
Rizen bets 300, hero?

Best line to extract maximum value pre? Anyone ever 4 bet pre instead?

0evg0 · #2 04-23-2007, 03:53 AM

calls and hopes board comes 93222

pretty much just keep calling and then shove non Q-K rivers

shaundeeb · #3 04-23-2007, 03:59 AM

I like a raise on the flop I don't see him not putting in the rest with a big OP. Any other hand is shutting down on turns anyway.

mikeJ · #4 04-23-2007, 04:20 AM

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I like a raise on the flop I don't see him not putting in the rest with a big OP. Any other hand is shutting down on turns anyway.

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QFT

nath · #5 04-23-2007, 04:48 AM

this is why i love being me, i can 4 bet pf and people will bluff 5 bet shove at me

0evg0 · #6 04-23-2007, 04:51 AM

you dont think rizen folds QQ to a raise on this dry-ass board?

uclabruinz · #7 04-23-2007, 05:09 PM

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I like a raise on the flop I don't see him not putting in the rest with a big OP. Any other hand is shutting down on turns anyway.

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Gross. What are you accomplishing by raising?

#8 04-23-2007, 05:12 PM

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I like a raise on the flop I don't see him not putting in the rest with a big OP. Any other hand is shutting down on turns anyway.

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Gross. What are you accomplishing by raising?

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While I'm not a proponent of the flop raise, I wouldn't go as far to say that nothing is being accomplished by it. Obviously, we can get Rizen to put more money in the pot with a medium-high PP before an action killer card turns.

That said, I still think we gain more from just flat calling the flop lead.

shaundeeb · #9 04-23-2007, 05:41 PM

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I like a raise on the flop I don't see him not putting in the rest with a big OP. Any other hand is shutting down on turns anyway.

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Gross. What are you accomplishing by raising?

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to build a pot before a scare card i.e. an overcard to his pp comes.

shaundeeb · #10 04-23-2007, 05:42 PM

eagles with a board like this I think it's the opposite calling makes your hand either monster or float, because he's going to be betting a lot of turns and you know that and he prob knows you know that.