The Nuts! (PLO8)

Jorge10 · #1 03-31-2006, 12:40 AM

Ok Villan here has been raising with anything and then proceeds to call when you have him dominated, its a dream opponent also he has 350 on a 200 table, I cover I got about 450. However he doesnt seem stupid crazy, as in he wont raise without a good hand, he might call, but wont raise.

Preflop I have K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the SB.

Villan pots it from first position(7). 2 folds. 1 call. 2 more folds. 1 call, I call, BB calls.

Flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](Pot 33.25)

I pot it, BB folds, Villan pots it to 133, everyone else folds. Hero ?

poker1O1 · #2 03-31-2006, 12:55 AM

I'm interested in what others say here. Do you just push here? Do you call and lead any non 9,8,7?

Phil153 · #3 03-31-2006, 12:59 AM

Tough spot. I'd take a chance because of the possibility he has 56, a set without low, a low draw, a straight draw + low draw, AA, two pair etc, especially since you have a blocker. But I imagine it's close.

I push here.

Cooker · #4 03-31-2006, 01:56 AM

I shove here. If he is raising everything as you say in the first sentence, he might have flopped a staight with like 96 and be going a little nutso since he actually has something. If he usually has good hands when he raises as you state later, I don't see many good hands you would be too worried about. Seeing TTA2 here every time is too weak. You have the nuts, and may be getting freerolled buy JT with 2 low cards, but he may have something like TP and A2 which really isn't too bad for your hand. You still may have Q outs to scoop. Too bad you don't have a back door FD. If you are going to play something speculative for a raise (and I view a high only hand like this one as pretty speculative), then that backdoor flush potential is often nice.

Ergodicity · #5 03-31-2006, 12:03 PM

How can you have 900 posts and still think you have the nuts here?

-Ergodicity will get you in the end

Phil153 · #6 03-31-2006, 12:05 PM

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How can you have 900 posts and still think you have the nuts here?

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Whose gimmick account are you? Brilliant name BTW.

dcasper70 · #7 03-31-2006, 12:16 PM

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How can you have 900 posts and still think you have the nuts here?

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Whose gimmick account are you? Brilliant name BTW.

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was the Mute banned again???

januarymute · #8 03-31-2006, 01:58 PM

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Whose gimmick account are you? Brilliant name BTW.

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was the Mute banned again???

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these mods are a little slow on the uptake, give it a couple hours...

Jorge, why do you post stupid ass [censored] like this. If you are even considering folding this, you're definitely leaving money on the table in situations that are far more marginal. People here in general would do much better if they stop thinking about how their opponent *could* have the perfect 4 cards to screw them, and start thinking about the strength of their own hand, and how over many samples, they'll come away rich by shoving it all in against their retarded opponents wide range.

Jorge10 · #9 03-31-2006, 03:51 PM

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Whose gimmick account are you? Brilliant name BTW.

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was the Mute banned again???

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these mods are a little slow on the uptake, give it a couple hours...

Jorge, why do you post stupid ass [censored] like this. If you are even considering folding this, you're definitely leaving money on the table in situations that are far more marginal. People here in general would do much better if they stop thinking about how their opponent *could* have the perfect 4 cards to screw them, and start thinking about the strength of their own hand, and how over many samples, they'll come away rich by shoving it all in against their retarded opponents wide range.

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I was running bad at the time and was kind of pissed off and what you just typed went through my mind along with I got 2 damn tens, there is no way he has it. So I just reraised him and put him all in.

Turn 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
River Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He had A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

kurto · #10 03-31-2006, 06:35 PM

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...and what you just typed went through my mind along with I got 2 damn tens, there is no way he has it. So I just reraised him and put him all in.

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I don't understand... are you a time traveller? You played the hand... you posted the hand.... janmute responded... you thought about what he posted... then you acted on the hand (which already happened) based on his post?

There's some kind of paradox here.