Duke Lacrosse Team Story

[DMBFan23]

I agree with bugstud. UVA was DEFINITELY a bubble, we didn't know [censored] about c'ville and didn't care to, we were too busy doing kegstands.

[Jorge10]

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On PTI they were saying that the reports are saying this was racially motivated and that the raped woman said they were screaming racial slurs at her while raping her and a neighbor also overheard the racial slurs. I get the feeling this story is gonna be huge by the end of the weekend.

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It will, but still won't be as huge as it should be.

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I agree with this.

I watch MSNBC a lot and they only mentioned this briefly in one news show. The only channel that is really covering this story like crazy is ESPN.

If it was a white woman being raped by black men every channel would be devoting hours and hours to this. Every MSNBC show would have a segment on it. Its just a different reaction.

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What are your personal feelings on the media coverage the two different rape scenarios receive? The reason I ask is because you just matter of factly state that one would receive more media coverage than the other. We all recognize this but what is needed is people sticking up for what is right and not just thinking and acting with the masses.

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If you want to see the differences think of the Nathalie Holloway case. I saw that whole case unfold from beginning to end on MSNBC. For the first 2 weeks since it was first reported every show would mention it in some way, shape or form. The first week was really crazy; every show was about the case. There was no exception to this, every single show would tackle an angle of it. One would go into talking to the family of the victim. The following 1 hour news show would talk with the cops there. Then the following show would talk to some of the reporters there. Every single person involved with the case got air time and you pretty much knew everything that was going on non stop. I have been watching MSNBC since yesterday and so far I have only seen one of the talk shows there that had a 5 minute segment on the Duke case with one of the cops working on the case, but nothing crazy.

If it was a white woman raped by black men, the girl would be all over the press and the guys would be all over the press too. We would know just about everything there is to know about the case. Right now ESPN has reported a few things as has MSNBC and FOX, but we don’t even have complete information as to who might have done it. Who in the team had any criminal background that might have come into play. Who has had behavior problems, or reported anger problems that might have come into play. Who matches the description by the victim? There are a lot of questions that just haven’t been answered that would have been if it would have been a white woman raped by black men.

I find it disturbing that to this day people are biased like this. Its 2006, WTF. I can’t believe some people still look at the color of someone's skin before deciding whether they should give a damn about right and wrong.

[The Ocho]

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If you want to see the differences think of the Nathalie Holloway case. I saw that whole case unfold from beginning to end on MSNBC. For the first 2 weeks since it was first reported every show would mention it in some way, shape or form. The first week was really crazy; every show was about the case. There was no exception to this, every single show would tackle an angle of it. One would go into talking to the family of the victim. The following 1 hour news show would talk with the cops there. Then the following show would talk to some of the reporters there. Every single person involved with the case got air time and you pretty much knew everything that was going on non stop. I have been watching MSNBC since yesterday and so far I have only seen one of the talk shows there that had a 5 minute segment on the Duke case with one of the cops working on the case, but nothing crazy.

If it was a white woman raped by black men, the girl would be all over the press and the guys would be all over the press too. We would know just about everything there is to know about the case. Right now ESPN has reported a few things as has MSNBC and FOX, but we don’t even have complete information as to who might have done it. Who in the team had any criminal background that might have come into play. Who has had behavior problems, or reported anger problems that might have come into play. Who matches the description by the victim? There are a lot of questions that just haven’t been answered that would have been if it would have been a white woman raped by black men.

I find it disturbing that to this day people are biased like this. Its 2006, WTF. I can’t believe some people still look at the color of someone's skin before deciding whether they should give a damn about right and wrong.

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i dont think youre taking into account the other things that are in the news right now. in my opinion, natalie holloway was a "fluff" news story that was filling the news void at the time. the huge immigration story is pushing the duke rape case to the background here. had the duke story broke during a slower newsweek, i have think it would be much much bigger.

also, wait until there is an arrest or 3 made... then things should pick up. there isnt really very much to say about the case at this point (that you havent already heard) since the team appears to be exercising their 5th amendment rights at the moment. as the investigation continues and more facts come to light, i would expect the story to get bigger.

[$_DEADSEXE_$]

Natalie Holloway was a sweet white pretty all american upper class girl from Alabama or wherever who disapeared and may have been raped and murdered.

If we switched Natalie holloway and made her a sweet black pretty poor all american girl from Ingelwood...the story would have been off the TV in about a week or two.

Anybody who doesn't believe this is true is either stupid or incredibly naive.


The bigger question here is the entire Duke Lacross team being silent. A majority probably had nothing to do with the rape but know who did.
If I was running that school and it turned out a rape did occur..I'd kick the entire team out of school.

[roundmound]

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Natalie Holloway was a sweet white pretty all american upper class girl from Alabama or wherever who disapeared and may have been raped and murdered.

If we switched Natalie holloway and made her a sweet black pretty poor all american girl from Ingelwood...the story would have been off the TV in about a week or two.

Anybody who doesn't believe this is true is either stupid or incredibly naive.


The bigger question here is the entire Duke Lacross team being silent. A majority probably had nothing to do with the rape but know who did.
If I was running that school and it turned out a rape did occur..I'd kick the entire team out of school.

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How would a poor black girl afford to go to Aruba on a post graduation vacation? Any american teenage girl getting lost over there would be a big story.

Im sure the lawyers for the members team have told their clients to shut their mouths for the moment.

White women get raped all the time by black men. None of those make national news. The only reason this is getting national press is because its a sports team and so ESPN is covering it, and we are all sports fans. I have many friends who don't really follow sports and none of them have heard of this. Just like they haven't heard about any of the other countless rapes that happen everyday across the country. News outletts main concern is ratings. If a story will get ratings, they report it.

[cokehead]

this story was on the front page of many major newspapers yesterday, and also was the lead story on the today show. its getting major national coverage beyond espn.

[The Ocho]

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The bigger question here is the entire Duke Lacross team being silent. A majority probably had nothing to do with the rape but know who did.
If I was running that school and it turned out a rape did occur..I'd kick the entire team out of school.

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assuming the rape did occur...
i would be interested to know how you would justify kicking nearly 50 kids out of school when presumably only 3 are guilty of rape. the rest may or may not have even been at the party or even know for sure what happened that night.

[$_DEADSEXE_$]

There has been countless media research done that child abductions(the ones that always make MSNBC/Geraldo/etc go apeshit with ratings joy) of white girls get waaay more media coverage than those involving minorities.

And no...if a poor black girl disapearred in Aruba...it would make news. But Halloway was news for over a year and is still news.
If it was a poor black girl it would be news for maybe a month or so...and then the public would lose interest.

[$_DEADSEXE_$]

Natolee Halloway
Elizebath Smart
Chandra Levee
The little blonde girl killed in San Diego
The 13 yr old white girl in florida raped and killed
The two white girls killed and buried by the same guy(a neighbor) in seattle
etc etc
Drudin in Minnesota...raped and killed

The only black girls or minorities that I can recall over the past year or two is one in some southern state who got news only because people were complaining that her story wasnt getting any media coverage

[CrazyPsycho]

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