Duke Lacrosse Team Story

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And no one ever deserves to be raped or physically harmed, I'm not implying that, but...it sounds like this woman put herself at a greater risk of this happening by being in that setting rather than being at, say, the library. That should be a safety lesson for women to avoid those kinds of settings.

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You are blaming the victim.

How dare she be a stripper? Why, that's practically ASKING to be raped! Too bad women don't just stay at home 24/7. Then they'd be safe.

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For anyone interested, the Durham Cty. DA was on The O'Reilly Factor, which repeats at 4AM eastern. Interesting piece in relation to the 'presumption of innocence/guilt' issue. Spoiler below in white about what he said, for those who don't want to wait to watch it.


<font color="white"> The DA basically said he has no doubt that the woman was raped. With the St. John's and Kobe incidents, I found it surprising he'd say that. </font>

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And no one ever deserves to be raped or physically harmed, I'm not implying that, but...it sounds like this woman put herself at a greater risk of this happening by being in that setting rather than being at, say, the library. That should be a safety lesson for women to avoid those kinds of settings.


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It’s her job.

I hate it when people look down at anyone trying to make a living. She has a job in the sex industry big deal. She has a right to make a living like everyone else.

You can’t blame the victim here. That’s like saying, "it was that bouncer's fault he got shot, he shouldn’t have been working in the club." Some jobs require you to go into somewhat dangerous settings for both men and women. It doesn’t mean that they should not be protected by the law or that is should be any less of a tragedy when someone gets seriously hurt. Another example would be the people involved in mining accidents. We know that people get trapped underground a lot and that its a danger that comes with the job, but it doesn’t mean certain companies cannot be sued by the families if there was obvious negligence when it comes to safety and it doesn’t mean we don’t feel extremely sad when a life is lost.

[PTjvs]

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no jailtime..no fines...no community service
just cut of their dicks. problem solved

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Do you ever say anything intelligent?

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On PTI they were saying that the reports are saying this was racially motivated and that the raped woman said they were screaming racial slurs at her while raping her and a neighbor also overheard the racial slurs. I get the feeling this story is gonna be huge by the end of the weekend.

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On PTI they were saying that the reports are saying this was racially motivated and that the raped woman said they were screaming racial slurs at her while raping her and a neighbor also overheard the racial slurs. I get the feeling this story is gonna be huge by the end of the weekend.

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It will, but still won't be as huge as it should be.

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It blows my mind that with how easy it is to score some ass on todays college campuses,even for nerds,...guys still resort to rape.

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From what I understand about studies on rape it is less about getting ass and more about the power. dook is this bastion of higher education surrounded by some sketchy areas ... depending on how this unfolds (i.e. if and how many of these white players go to jail) this could turn into a sticky situation as the black leaders of Durham will not stand for an O.J. like trial and verdict.

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please don't turn your college rivalry thinking into a judgment of the personalities of duke students.

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i hate to be backking up liga, but how is he judging duke students? calling duke a "bastion of higher education surrounded by poorer areas" is the truth as is the rape is power, not sex.

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i don't know it sounds like an implication that duke students have no awareness of the community around them and that everyone that goes there is up in a high ivory tower unconcerned with the rest of the world. maybe i misinterpreted.

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I'm not really sure how far off from the truth that is, if at all.

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Yeah, in my experience growing up in the Triangle area, it's definitely accurate for a large percentage of Duke students.

I can see something like this happening at my old high school, which sent a lot of kids to UNC / Duke.

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Women get raped on college campuses all the time. It's very sad, I wish it never happened, but it does.



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I think you are missing the bigger picture here. This isn't 1 guy who got to drunk and ended up raping a chick (which is also a terrible act I dont intend to trivialize it) but the point is that a 1 on 1 rape by an individual student is much different then a 'team' that the school sponsors beating, choking, and gang raping a girl. The team is a reprasentative of the school and have traumatized two young girls and have soiled Duke image already whether or not the allegations are true this will always be associated with Duke and less importantly Duke LaCrosse.

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On PTI they were saying that the reports are saying this was racially motivated and that the raped woman said they were screaming racial slurs at her while raping her and a neighbor also overheard the racial slurs. I get the feeling this story is gonna be huge by the end of the weekend.

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It will, but still won't be as huge as it should be.

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I agree with this.

I watch MSNBC a lot and they only mentioned this briefly in one news show. The only channel that is really covering this story like crazy is ESPN.

If it was a white woman being raped by black men every channel would be devoting hours and hours to this. Every MSNBC show would have a segment on it. Its just a different reaction.

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On PTI they were saying that the reports are saying this was racially motivated and that the raped woman said they were screaming racial slurs at her while raping her and a neighbor also overheard the racial slurs. I get the feeling this story is gonna be huge by the end of the weekend.

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It will, but still won't be as huge as it should be.

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I agree with this.

I watch MSNBC a lot and they only mentioned this briefly in one news show. The only channel that is really covering this story like crazy is ESPN.

If it was a white woman being raped by black men every channel would be devoting hours and hours to this. Every MSNBC show would have a segment on it. Its just a different reaction.

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What are your personal feelings on the media coverage the two different rape scenarios receive? The reason I ask is because you just matter of factly state that one would receive more media coverage than the other. We all recognize this but what is needed is people sticking up for what is right and not just thinking and acting with the masses.