whats your play ??????????

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My 4bet is all in here.

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Shoving is fine.

However, some other posters and myself have been talking a lot about this forum, and one thing we've found is the propensity for the brutish PF shove.

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<font color="blue"> Sorry this whole statement seems pretty arrogant to me... </font>


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[Understand that by shoving KK here you are losing a lot of value from hands that will fold to a shove, but will call a healthy but reasonable 4bet, not to mention hands that may fold to a shove, but may shove over a healthy but reasonable 4bet.

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<font color="blue"> I 'understand' what your saying may be correct theoretically, but at this level of the tourny i think you loose more value than you gain by making a finess play here. at later levels i would be more inclined to agree.</font>