2007 Silver Slugger awards - Page 5

MikeyPatriot · #41 11-09-2007, 10:17 PM

I honestly couldn't tell you what side you were on in that thread, but I'm guessing you dissed LBJ or else you wouldn't have mentioned it.

I don't really keep tabs on who think what, I just react to what people say in each thread. You said VMart > Posada in this thread, which is stupid, so I flamed ye.

Victor · #42 11-09-2007, 10:21 PM

as far as who had a better year i think its a lot closer than you stat boys will allow. u guys really just think rbis are useless?

Neuge · #43 11-09-2007, 10:22 PM

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u guys really just think rbis are useless?

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Pretty much.

Dudd · #44 11-09-2007, 10:22 PM

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as far as who had a better year i think its a lot closer than you stat boys will allow. u guys really just think rbis are useless?

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Compared to other, better stats, yeah, pretty much.

Victor · #45 11-09-2007, 10:24 PM

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as far as who had a better year i think its a lot closer than you stat boys will allow. u guys really just think rbis are useless?

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Compared to other, better stats, yeah, pretty much.

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arent a lot of those stats meant to indicate performance going forward?

MikeyPatriot · #46 11-09-2007, 10:25 PM

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They aren't completely useless. Obviously, most of the time, a guy with a good RBI total is going to be a pretty quality hitter. But they're so dependent on other factors that they really shouldn't ever be used as a way to compare two players, especially when superior metrics are available. For instance, here's how useless RBIs can be:

Player X
634 AB
.232 AVG
.290 OBP
.391 SLG
24 HR
48 BB/93 SO
115 RBI

Do you really want this guy on your team?

MikeyPatriot · #47 11-09-2007, 10:26 PM

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No. Stats like VORP show you how well a player played compared to a replacement level player. It's a very robust summary of a player's year.

Victor · #48 11-09-2007, 10:28 PM

depends on who he replaces. blake. obv.

MikeyPatriot · #49 11-09-2007, 10:30 PM

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depends on who he replaces. blake. obv.

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Huh? I don't understand what this means.

Victor · #50 11-09-2007, 10:31 PM

he is better than casey blake. and probably better than the worst player on nearly all teams. so yes, he will help most team.