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Old 10-22-2007, 01:00 PM
hogua hogua is offline
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Default Re: Zero Sum Blackjack: Possible?

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Hoqua,

The online numbers are what some professionals I've talked to have experienced. In reality I'm closer to 300-400 for a 8 hour type workday. I need to take 15 minute breaks, I lose focus, etc. I can't imagine live play would be much quicker than online play. Though what you're saying at 2.5x the speed is insanity.

Also, long term play at that speed is going to be riddled with errors. Playing anywhere near max speed increase your error rate dramatically especially when grinding hour after hour.

Also IIRC isn't handle for BJ typically right around 1.1x your base wager due to doubling/splitting etc. If automated, I'd assume this would be the way its calculated, no?

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Ok, so you've never played these machines? So you have no idea how fast they are, correct? You're comparing them to online play, which is like comparing apples and oranges.

Go to Vegas. Find a VBJ game. Set it at run on the fastet mode possible. Once you do that, you'll see just how fast the hands can be played by someone that doesn't need to think about basic strategy. Until you do that, you have no clue about this and, by contining to talk about it, you only highlight your ignorance of the subject.


You're correct about the doubles and splits. The 1500 hands per hour number takes that into account (i.e. 1500 bets per hour), which is a low estimate for rate of play for solid pros on these machines.

Any Vegas pro isn't going to have a problem with errors. Most of these guys have can play error free for hours on end on any of at least 12-15 different versions of VP, almost all of which have much more complicated strategies than BJ, and do so at a rate of 1000-1200 hands per hour.

If they can do that, they can handle BJ basic strategy at a high hands/hour rate in their sleep.

This is how these guys make their living. They play for hours on end. When they aren't playing in a casino, they are at home practicing.

Just because you cant do it doesn't mean that these guys, who train for to be able to do this, can't.

Have you ever talked about multi tabling poker online with someone who even hear that people would do this? If you have, you know the reaction they give if/when you mention that people play 10-12 (hell even 30) tables at a time for hours on end. That reaction is one of disbelief, which is based on ignorance. Because they can't do it, they assume no one else can.
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