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09-21-2007, 09:41 AM
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Re: An Amazing Life
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[ QUOTE ] The rest of Chapter 8 is amazing but I'm afraid I'm taking up to much space on 2+2...If anyone wants the rest of it...I will provide it later... [/ QUOTE ] It's interesting that certain people seem to believe that the 2+2 forum is in need of missionaries to convert us heathens. I guess it's a lot easier to sit in front of a computer and proselytize than it is to travel to Africa or New Guinea to do it in person. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe the Holy Spirit is leading him here to 'convert you heathens'. 
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#92
09-21-2007, 09:42 AM
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Re: An Amazing Life
Its interesting you say that Hopey...I was able to study for a brief time under a man that helped translate the NIV bible from the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic...He had grown up in a family that were missionaries in India....He said once that he found it odd that people think they had to travel to share the word of God...they should be doing it in their own backyard first...
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#93
09-21-2007, 09:50 AM
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if a Non-believing Scholar came upon the evidence, and was thereby convinced and 'converted' he would cease to be a Non-believing Scholar. While your statement would still be 'true', it's intended meaning would be completely undermined. [/ QUOTE ] er, ehmmmm, that was my intended meaning. luckyme
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#95
09-21-2007, 10:19 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular? [/ QUOTE ] Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles. [/ QUOTE ] So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus?? [/ QUOTE ] I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't."
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#96
09-21-2007, 10:26 AM
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or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular? [/ QUOTE ] I can't comment right now, I just found a ton of pages on "miracles in Islam" and the like. Their's are really neat because they still go on today... with lots of color pictures. good stuff and apparently it lines right up with scientific findings. luckyme
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#97
09-21-2007, 10:29 AM
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the events under the greatest scrutiny and dispute are the Miracles described in the bible. the skeptic approaches with Scientific analysis, and says that these things couldn't possible have occurred, they are Scientifically impossible! but, i don't think this is sufficient grounds to dismiss. of COURSE they are Scientifically impossible. that's why they're called MIRACLES. [/ QUOTE ] You are missing the point. It's not that the events didn't take place per se, it's that their origin was misplaced by credulous people or that the event itself was exaggerated/allegory. All the skeptics here worth their salt realize that miracles are theoretically possible. [ QUOTE ] there have been plenty of times in history where things occurred that couldn't have been explained up until that moment [/ QUOTE ] This is not a point in your favor. An overwhelming amount of the time natural explanations are found responsible for these unnamed events.
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#98
09-21-2007, 10:30 AM
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Re: An Amazing Life
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular? [/ QUOTE ] Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles. [/ QUOTE ] So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus?? [/ QUOTE ] I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't." [/ QUOTE ] Try Acts 9....start reading
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#99
09-21-2007, 10:42 AM
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Re: An Amazing Life
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular? [/ QUOTE ] Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles. [/ QUOTE ] So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus?? [/ QUOTE ] I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't." [/ QUOTE ] Try Acts 9....start reading [/ QUOTE ] or, Robinson Crusoe, Chapter 1 - 7. It's based on an actual event, underline the parts that Dafoe added or that didn't actually happen that way and explain how we know that. luckyme
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#100
09-21-2007, 10:53 AM
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Re: An Amazing Life
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular? [/ QUOTE ] Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles. [/ QUOTE ] So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus?? [/ QUOTE ] I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't." [/ QUOTE ] Try Acts 9....start reading [/ QUOTE ] I have read it before but I have some spare time so I will read it again.... It's a nice story. What makes you think this actually took place? I am open to the idea that it did but when I read this it sounds like allegory to me.
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