An Amazing Life

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Yes, I was saying that I am not a Christian.. Not that Christ was not a Christian. Thanks for clearing that up, hitch and Sepus.

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No non-christian scholars believe that 'jesus of the bible' existed ... Or Else They Would Be Christians.
The possible 'poor slob jesus', hut builder, that may have existed never influenced anyone.

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I believe he was a real and highly influential person (not a christian).

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Count me in. That's 2. (I am not Christian.)

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So you believe both that there was a real person named Jesus AND that this very same real person performed all of those miracles and said all of those things?


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Where did I say "this very same real person performed all of those miracles and said all of those things?"?

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Because if you are ignoring or rejecting the miracles, you should probably be ignoring or rejecting all the wonderful things he said and his message...since they come from the same source.

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I have no idea what Jesus said and don't know what his message was.

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Tacitus and all give some support to the idea that some dude named Jesus lived and was possibly crucified. But nothing Tacitus or any other Roman says has anything to do with whether this guy ever said a meaningful thing in his life.

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I guess there's a .001% chance that he was selected completely randomly to be followed and worshiped as a mesiah. The much more plausible explanation is that he was a spiritual leader who drew a large following, was seen as dangerous for this and executed and then in martyrdom gained an exaggerated and mythological status.

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If you don't know what he said or what his message was, then how can you know that HE was the influential person? In other words, how do you know that it is the real, living person Jesus who is influential, and not the completely separate, mythological, son of God Jesus?