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Old 09-19-2007, 02:12 PM
ghbond ghbond is offline
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Default Re: KK in 3-bet pot, A hits the turn. NL2k

"so I sticked to my plan and get it in"

I think you gave ur own answer right there. Just don't look at this hand, but all ur KK post/rag flop hands. KK is pretty much a push against one player. If you shove before the flop, PF, or on the streets is up to you. I think ur play was a little trappy, because you would know more if you bump him again b4 the flop. If he calls that, easier to push him post/flop instead of check/call, and maybe u never get to the A.

After c/c the flop for value, tuff luck you see an A. But over the KK hands you play, how often does that A show turn/river? Plus, although he has odds, no reason to call now unless he has a winner, so a weak Ace has a tuffer call. Certainly no point in you CALLING the turn, so it's shove or fold.

If you fold, it isn't that weak because he doesn't know what you folded, and he puts you on a missed draw. Here is where your read comes in, and you would only fold if you could put him on the A. If you had a bigger stack, it's an easier fold, because you have to risk much more equity to AI.

In the end, you have a plan to get value from your KK, kind of like getting value from a flush-chaser. When the flush comes, you fold, trashing the implied odds for ur opponent. When the A comes, you would do the same thing if you can put him on the A, but ur aggro villain could have anything.

Also, as you say, you left him great odds by being shorty, so many hands could still call you that don't have you beat.
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