Official review thread, LearnedfromTV

Bond18 · #1 09-19-2007, 03:47 AM

Recently LFTV went quite deep in the second chance WCOOP short handed event.

Here's the Link:

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA84095/LFTV%206%20max/8550

grafyx · #2 09-19-2007, 09:27 AM

I watched the first 100 so far.

I'm interested in your thought process behind attempting a bluff in hand 25 vs this player - I don't have any knowledge of this guys game, just saw hand 6 which makes me not want to try a cr bluff.

LearnedfromTV · #3 09-19-2007, 09:59 AM

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I watched the first 100 so far.

I'm interested in your thought process behind attempting a bluff in hand 25 vs this player - I don't have any knowledge of this guys game, just saw hand 6 which makes me not want to try a cr bluff.

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Yeah, I just decided he had an 8 between only calling flop and then betting so small on the turn and my instinct was to make him fold it. I think I c-r'ed too small for that purpose though, for this or any player. I'm also pretty sure I hadn't seen/processed that hand with gank where he called a similar turn raise w/ middle pair on a worse board for middle pair.

LearnedfromTV · #4 09-19-2007, 10:06 AM

Everyone,

One of the reasons I wanted Bond to post this one is it's like the tenth time I've gone deep in something fairly big and finished like 8th-20th. Part of the problem is I always make it to the final 25 or whatever with a small to medium stack and then lose a flip and busto. I don't know why that is, and in smaller tournaments, both buyin and field size, I usually get to final tables with big stacks.

Anyway, I wanted people who usually have big stacks when they make it deep to look for any spots that I miss in the final couple hours.

ZeeJustin · #5 09-19-2007, 11:02 AM

I really hope you were sitting out on hand 47.

LearnedfromTV · #6 09-19-2007, 11:12 AM

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I really hope you were sitting out on hand 47.

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heh...

PokerStars Game #12058111715: Tournament #70002001, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/09/14 - 17:46:26 (ET)
Table '70002001 4' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: javahound (4910 in chips)
Seat 3: gank (2120 in chips)
Seat 4: AnalAce (2735 in chips)
Seat 5: Entropy xx (2305 in chips)
Seat 6: bonzo9876 (5930 in chips)
javahound: posts small blind 25
gank: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Entropy xx [Qh Kc]
AnalAce: folds
Entropy xx has timed out
Entropy xx: folds
Entropy xx is sitting out
bonzo9876: folds
Entropy xx has returned
javahound: calls 25
gank: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts 5c Ah]
javahound: checks
gank: checks
*** TURN *** [Ts 5c Ah] [Tc]
javahound: checks
gank: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ts 5c Ah Tc] [Qs]
javahound: checks
gank: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
javahound: shows [Kd 9s] (a pair of Tens)
gank: shows [5d 6s] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
gank collected 100 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 100 | Rake 0
Board [Ts 5c Ah Tc Qs]
Seat 2: javahound (small blind) showed [Kd 9s] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: gank (big blind) showed [5d 6s] and won (100) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 4: AnalAce folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Entropy xx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bonzo9876 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I think there was one other hand like this. My internet connection was bad for part of the day.

ZeeJustin · #7 09-19-2007, 11:30 AM

For the most part, you played too tight for my liking, but fine, that's your style. Here are the hands I really had problems with:

177: Shove all day. You are so far ahead of his range.
234: Call all-in.
272: Let's see. 13 + .5 + .4 + .8 +2.2 = 16.9k in the pot, 12.6k to call. Haven't been watching his play, but I wouldn't fold unless he's a super super nit. Against lots of players, you are actually ahead of their range here. It's pretty hard to be far behind their range with only 15x BB. I would call.
278: Flipping your hand face up and then annoucning all-in would be a better play than folding. I'd shove despite having over 10x BB.
283: Reshove.
293: Another hand where you could profitably flip your hand face up and then move all-in. Folding in these spots is criminal.
314: Way too weak. You could reraise preflop. YOu could lead the flop. You could check call. Check raise. All better than the way you played it IMO.
415: Another profitable face up shove spot. I would raise and call a reraise all-in.

Edit: Other than this, you missed a bunch of steal spots I would take, and one or two resteal spots, but like I said above, those are style issues.

LearnedfromTV · #8 09-19-2007, 11:52 AM

Are you sure about the 22 hand? Especially the faceup part. It's not just more than 10bb, it's 19 and all three behind me cover. Someone has a bigger pair 17% of the time.

The 55 hand, there had been some chat about the series of reshoves. There was ~ zero chance rabscuttle was folding, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have raised without a hand. Shoving anyway is probably the exact type of thing that I need to do to accumulate chips.

LearnedfromTV · #9 09-19-2007, 12:18 PM

Justin (and others), what do you think about hands 149 and 378?

ZeeJustin · #10 09-19-2007, 01:37 PM

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Justin (and others), what do you think about hands 149 and 378?

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I don't like the turn bet in 149. It looks so weak. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the best hand even after the turn check raise.

Hand 378 is odd, and he could just have a draw, but I think a pair and a draw is more likely than that. I would fold like you did.