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Old 09-17-2007, 07:02 PM
Splendour Splendour is offline
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The fact one person was a rich jerk and the other was a very good hardworking man probably wouldn't change the situation for me...What might change the situation is if he seemed to have an unbeatable game without the use of a bluff..if that was the case then no action is required by me...and that is a possibility...
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:18 PM
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I snatch waiters tips off tables when I walk out of a restaurant too, sure its angle-shooting, but its part of the game. If they want their tips, they have to be quicker than me. I know it isnt a perfect analogy, but thats the way i see it.

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Snatching tips is part of what game exactly?
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:52 PM
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Would you guys answer differently in situation A than in situation B?

A) He is hideously wealthy, having acquired the wealth by inheritance, his father having stolen the money, literally, from orphan's mouhs. He is known far and wide as a selfish and uncharitable soul.

B) He is a working man, plying the trade at which he is most skilled, in order to feed, clothe, and educate his family. He is a very charitable man as well.

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I would andy, but subjective ethical evaluations almost always have magnitude to them. And action can (and should!) be seen as worse as the circumstances change, even if the action is much the same.

I also think people have some questions confused. When discussing this question people seem to discuss three separate questions.

1.) Is it wrong?
2.) How wrong is it?
3.) Will I do it?

And to further confuse the issue, the original question reads 'Should you do it?' which causes further mixing up in terms (ie, is it a fundamental ethical question, a question of your personal choice in the matter, a question of legal issues...it is hard to tell from the phrasing).
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:09 PM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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I snatch waiters tips off tables when I walk out of a restaurant too



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If I saw you doing that I would shoot you on the spot. No trial, no judge, no jury - instadeath. You are beneath scum.

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For someone who almost never posts about non religious matters, what on earth promted you to write this?
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:17 PM
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For someone who almost never posts about non religious matters, what on earth promted you to write this?


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I've been dependent on tips in my life. Not being tipped is hell. Having them stolen by some dip is unthinkable.
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:26 PM
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It's not really analogous because with people who have the inherent disadvantage you can assume they know about it or at least should know about it and choose to play anyways.

What you should be comparing this to is the people who continue to show you their hole cards after you warn them.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:25 PM
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For someone who almost never posts about non religious matters, what on earth promted you to write this?


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I've been dependent on tips in my life. Not being tipped is hell. Having them stolen by some dip is unthinkable.

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I think you missed his point.

Edit: By that I mean vhawks
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:23 AM
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Notready,

You thoroughly missed his horridly misguided point
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:52 AM
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But you know it because of the color of his skin.

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If you can judge a bluffer
By the color of his skin
Then mister you're a better man than I
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:07 AM
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For someone who almost never posts about non religious matters, what on earth promted you to write this?


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I've been dependent on tips in my life. Not being tipped is hell. Having them stolen by some dip is unthinkable.

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What about forgiveness and all that turn the other cheek stuff? Is that just all biblical interpretation too?
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