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Old 03-10-2006, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 9Ts vs LAG

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that board is very pretty. There is a high likely hood of you checking, villain betting, mason raising with his combo draw/2 pair and or isolation, then you push.



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This would be the ideal happenstance.

If villian bets, and Mason calls, then I wouldn't mind a call, and planned turn c/r.

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Really? Seems to me a lot of cards you don't want to see fall on the turn here. Any spade, an Ace or a T, heck a K,Q,J isn't pretty.

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I agree.
This hand is good but very vulnerable.
Slowplaying a vulnerable hand in a multiway pot is asking for trouble.
CR flop.
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Old 03-10-2006, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 9Ts vs LAG

In any other situation, I would b/3 bet here. But this presents a perfect opportunity to trap two players and come over the top with a huge raise.
I have to disagree with AJ, I don't like a check/call here, because about half the deck kills either your action or your hand on the turn.
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Old 03-10-2006, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: 9Ts vs LAG

and a big CR might look like a big semi-bluff to mason
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Old 03-10-2006, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: 9Ts vs LAG

cr because you say villain is lag so let him do the betting for you. maybe get mason involved as well if he knows the image of villain as lag. hell mason might even do the raising for you. check raise is my favorite play here

problem with leading with this flop is when we get flat called esp in both spots and a scare card hits. i wanna get my whole stack in on this flop or at least a big potion of it as you are pretty deep here
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:08 PM
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I like b/c on flop, c/r all in on turn. I think you have to lead this. If villain has no hand all you're getting is his pot sized CB. If he has a hand he's raising you and I might get involved with whatever I have (two pair, set, etc). A c/r is going to scare me off for sure because I know you're a nit. A bet/call then turn check/raise will get tons of money in the pot. If I have a hand I will call this with any type of hand, then you can trap me on the turn when you c/r all in. I'm willing to risk letting a scare card come off for the chance to stack all of us.

If you bet and villain just calls then PSB turn again. If you bet, villain calls, and I raise THEN I think you can 3b all in. Obv if you bet, villain raises and I 3 bet you push.

It took me so long to respond because I have a JOB. I go to work and do work and I have already gotten a lecture about browsing 2p2 at work this week.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:15 AM
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Obvious c/r imo. Maniac is potting this all day. Mason may get frisky and try to isolate with one pair or something.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:37 AM
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CR for sure. If villian is betting every flop, then get as much as possible in on the flop.

HOWEVER; I really would also like an overbet-lead. I know this sounds quirky, but it might just get villian to make some retarded bluff or call with Qx. If he's really that aggro, I think it could set him off.

If you don't like that option, then make a big CR and push safe turns.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:49 AM
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I like b/c on flop, c/r all in on turn. I think you have to lead this. If villain has no hand all you're getting is his pot sized CB. If he has a hand he's raising you and I might get involved with whatever I have (two pair, set, etc). A c/r is going to scare me off for sure because I know you're a nit. A bet/call then turn check/raise will get tons of money in the pot. If I have a hand I will call this with any type of hand, then you can trap me on the turn when you c/r all in. I'm willing to risk letting a scare card come off for the chance to stack all of us.

If you bet and villain just calls then PSB turn again. If you bet, villain calls, and I raise THEN I think you can 3b all in. Obv if you bet, villain raises and I 3 bet you push.

It took me so long to respond because I have a JOB. I go to work and do work and I have already gotten a lecture about browsing 2p2 at work this week.

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I see where you are coming from with this but I think this is a pot I dont mind winning on the flop with a checkraise.
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Old 03-14-2006, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: 9Ts vs LAG

Sorry, been away at spring break trip for a while, and am still on it. I get back on sat/sunday so until then, no poker/2p2 I guess.

Anyways, results. I definitely think c/r is best on this hand. this villan will PSB 100% of the time. c/c might be ok if it wasn't such a drawy board. I led, he miniraised, mason folded, I 3-bet and he folded. Thanks for replies.
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