Bad Moments in Great Films - Page 10

FlyWf · #91 09-01-2007, 05:17 PM

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If you think about the twist the entire movie falls apart, it's not real cleverness.

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how so?

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Other people's reactions make absolutely no sense on rewatching if there's just one person. They have conversations with each other in the same room as other people. Was the Narrator saying both sides or just one?

Think about the initial beginning of fight club. They are fighting outside a bar and other people gather around to watch and eventually join in. Who would gather around to watch a guy beating the [censored] out of himself?

Basically, I have a serious beef with any movie that shows us internally fictional material with no indication that what we are seeing could be a lie. Compare to another popular self-negating twist movie from the late 1990s, The Usual Suspects. Kint is telling his story to another person(not the audience, another character). There is a motivation for him to lie. Why does the Narrator lie to the audience in Fight Club?

For the easy gimmick of "ZOMG it's a twist!" That's all.

I'm not a massive Charlie Kaufman fan but I absolutely adored the part of Adaptation where the idiot brother explains his screenplay.

Donald Kaufman: I'm putting in a chase sequence. So the killer flees on horseback with the girl, the cop's after them on a motorcycle and it's like a battle between motors and horses, like technology vs. horse.
Charlie Kaufman: And they're still all one person, right?

That was Kaufman [censored] all over Fight Club.

Edit: How could I misspell his name with the quoted portion? I'm a moron.

Uston · #92 09-01-2007, 05:27 PM

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Col. Jessep: You [censored]' people. You have no idea how to defend a nation. All you did was weaken a country today, Kaffee. That's all you did. You put people's lives in danger. Sweet dreams, son.

Kaffee: Don't call me son. I'm a lawyer and an officer in the United States Navy. And you're under arrest, you son of a bitch.

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Also,

Kaffee: You don't need to wear a patch on your arm to have honor.
Dawson: Ten-hut! There's an officer on deck.

Both exchanges are embarassingly bad.

Risky Business · #93 09-01-2007, 05:30 PM

The pseudo-pedo dress-up scene in The Professional between Jean Reno and Natalie Portman. Mildly disturbing'ish.

Anacardo · #94 09-01-2007, 05:35 PM

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The pseudo-pedo dress-up scene in The Professional between Jean Reno and Natalie Portman. Mildly disturbing'ish.

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Well, in the original screenplay, they're [censored] like rabbits. So I feel like they dialed it back pretty well.

Patrick Bateman · #95 09-01-2007, 06:47 PM

i like american psycho a lot, see many aspects from the movie in my live etc, what i hated though is the scene where patrick bateman is chasing the hooker in his appartment with a chainsaw and drop in on her and kill her. its just so out of touch with the rest of the movie

Justin A · #96 09-01-2007, 07:20 PM

Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. The end scene the wife makes me cringe so much. Actually all of her scenes in that movie make me cringe.

amplify · #97 09-01-2007, 07:25 PM

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i like american psycho a lot, see many aspects from the movie in my live etc, what i hated though is the scene where patrick bateman is chasing the hooker in his appartment with a chainsaw and drop in on her and kill her. its just so out of touch with the rest of the movie

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You mean like when he shoots the cop cars with a 9mm and they explode like they were hit with a bazooka?

Pudge714 · #98 09-01-2007, 08:15 PM

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Col. Jessep: You [censored]' people. You have no idea how to defend a nation. All you did was weaken a country today, Kaffee. That's all you did. You put people's lives in danger. Sweet dreams, son.

Kaffee: Don't call me son. I'm a lawyer and an officer in the United States Navy. And you're under arrest, you son of a bitch.

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I saw this movie once 5 years ago and I still remember this line ruining it.

mosdef · #99 09-01-2007, 08:46 PM

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Well, in the original screenplay, they're [censored] like rabbits. So I feel like they dialed it back pretty well.

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How do you know that?

Patrick Bateman · #**100** 09-01-2007, 08:50 PM

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i like american psycho a lot, see many aspects from the movie in my live etc, what i hated though is the scene where patrick bateman is chasing the hooker in his appartment with a chainsaw and drop in on her and kill her. its just so out of touch with the rest of the movie

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You mean like when he shoots the cop cars with a 9mm and they explode like they were hit with a bazooka?

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thats the [censored] i do daily