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Old 08-25-2007, 11:44 AM
Rickyroodido Rickyroodido is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

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preflop is not debatable and cant be ignored, its horrid

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might be debatable lol

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I didnt post this to discuss preflop play. Why is it so hard to just ignore it as a bad steal, and focus on the situation postflop?!
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

hard to ignore something that is that laughably bad. and potting the flop is pretty results oriented without a read that he stacks off with something other than a king here.
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

Pot-bet on the flop can only possibly be the correct play if he happens to have a K, which he did. You can't know that though. All other lines suggested in this thread will be more profitable against villain's complete range (which given your description of him, is pretty wide).
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:39 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

Everyone saying to check behind, realize please how often you DON'T Cbet your hands here. This is red-flag-oh-rama.
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

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Everyone saying to check behind, realize please how often you DON'T Cbet your hands here. This is red-flag-oh-rama.

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If this guy is as bad as OP describes, we probably don't have to worry too much about him reading our check as a monster hand.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:20 PM
Rickyroodido Rickyroodido is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

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Pot-bet on the flop can only possibly be the correct play if he happens to have a K, which he did. You can't know that though. All other lines suggested in this thread will be more profitable against villain's complete range (which given your description of him, is pretty wide).

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Will it? I mean isnt this a situation where we might get a little value by slowplaying or playing soft, but the times he has the king he will get pretty cheaply away.
So by just betting strong we will win a huge pott occasionally.
Im leaning towards that it would be more profitable EV wise to make a pottsized bet. Assume villian never will laydown any king.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

It really depends on the type of 'bad' player he is. But once he calls a decent flop bet, chances are good enough he has a king to start overbetting the pot and trying to get all in.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars 5 dollar MTT/ Deepstacks, pleasent problem.

can't ignore preflop cause it goes to the villan's whole style of play/image...lucky to still be in with chips if indicative...hand is irrelevant as in the long haul villan will be one of those who gets chips early and gets nowhere IMO
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