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Old 08-25-2007, 10:23 AM
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about that son stuff


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The truth is no one will need to ask anything. What will actually happen is "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord".
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:25 AM
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about that son stuff


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The truth is no one will need to ask anything. What will actually happen is "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord".

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Old 08-25-2007, 10:38 AM
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The truth is no one will need to ask anything. What will actually happen is "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord".

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Now who is making the leap? Even if we were to conclude there absolutely had to be a designer:

- It does not follow that he/she/it is omnipotent
- It does not follow that he/she/it is omniscient
- It does not follow that he/she/it cares about us or our sins
- It does not follow that there was a Jesus
- It does not follow that we will meet he/she/it when we die
- It does not follow that there is an afterlife at all
- It does not follow that we are the final stage of the design
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:44 AM
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The truth is no one will need to ask anything. What will actually happen is "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord".

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Now who is making the leap? Even if we were to conclude there absolutely had to be a designer:

- It does not follow that he/she/it is omnipotent
- It does not follow that he/she/it is omniscient
- It does not follow that he/she/it cares about us or our sins
- It does not follow that there was a Jesus
- It does not follow that we will meet he/she/it when we die
- It does not follow that there is an afterlife at all
- It does not follow that we are the final stage of the design

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Its all just a made up assumption believed at any cost. NR will be up there telling the man himself he does have a son.

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Old 08-25-2007, 10:49 AM
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Now who is making the leap? Even if we were to conclude there absolutely had to be a designer:

- It does not follow that he/she/it is omnipotent
- It does not follow that he/she/it is omniscient
- It does not follow that he/she/it cares about us or our sins
- It does not follow that there was a Jesus
- It does not follow that we will meet he/she/it when we die
- It does not follow that there is an afterlife at all
- It does not follow that we are the final stage of the design


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Right. But it is logical to believe that if God loves us He would communicate with us for the reasons above and others. And He did in the Bible which contains information about all of the above.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:03 AM
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Right. But it is logical to believe that if God loves us He would communicate with us for the reasons above and others. And He did in the Bible which contains information about all of the above.

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The Bible is man-made rubbish. Anyone who believes all that has been duped by people dead for centuries, and continues to be duped by those who use the gullibility of the masses for their own personal gain.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:13 AM
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The truth is no one will need to ask anything. What will actually happen is "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord".

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Now who is making the leap? Even if we were to conclude there absolutely had to be a designer:

- It does not follow that he/she/it is omnipotent
- It does not follow that he/she/it is omniscient
- It does not follow that he/she/it cares about us or our sins
- It does not follow that there was a Jesus
- It does not follow that we will meet he/she/it when we die
- It does not follow that there is an afterlife at all
- It does not follow that we are the final stage of the design

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Its all just a made up assumption believed at any cost. NR will be up there telling the man himself he does have a son.

chez

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Incidentally, what does an eternal being need a "son" for? Clearly not for the same reasons mortal beings procreate. So what makes a supreme being's "son" any more of a "son" than his other creations? Unless he knocked up another supreme being?

This little thought just illustrates how silly theological beliefs are at their very core -- misapplying concepts and characteristics only relevant to mortal humans to immortal "gods".
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:13 AM
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<font color="blue"> What will actually happen is "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord". </font>


Stanley says this is wrong!

Who's Stanley?

He's a friend of mine and he's ALWAYS right!

Discussion/debate over. You lose.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:04 PM
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That's how they get over on many people. But for the intellectuals composing it, Marxist theory is relentlessly logical. For the intellectuals studying it, it is dialectical materialism, and scrupulously excludes the mystical. A fundamental assumption is that nothing exists except matter in motion.

The Nazi master race business was cutting edge science of the day. Libraries of research data supported it.

The main way rationalism is able to commit murder is by being intellectually incontrovertible.


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Bill Haywood in "God's Warriors"
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:38 PM
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about that son stuff


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The truth is no one will need to ask anything. What will actually happen is "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord".

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So what you are really saying is that you seek out reasons to discount evolution because it puts the Bible in a category you desperately want to keep it out of. Sound about right?
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