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Old 01-02-2006, 11:20 AM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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"However, we do play similarly. As in more LAG than 2p2 TAG. They will quickly figure out we're not bots because we both isolate fish ridiculously and we throw in random raises and threebets based on the situation. "

Does this sound as super-sketchy to everyone else as it did to me? I read it and thought "Oh, so you were colluding, now you're making excuses about it."

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agreed.

random raises and three bets if you both were in the hand will be a problem in the audit.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:03 PM
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Can't speak for everyone else, but I keep hearing the following line (in olde English of course ) . . .

"Me thinks he doth protest too much".
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:30 PM
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They will quickly figure out we're not bots because we both isolate fish ridiculously and we throw in random raises and threebets based on the situation.


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These random raises and three-bets don't often occur when the pot is threeway and you are two of the people, do they?
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Old 01-02-2006, 01:06 PM
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They will quickly figure out we're not bots because we both isolate fish ridiculously and we throw in random raises and threebets based on the situation.


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These random raises and three-bets don't often occur when the pot is threeway and you are two of the people, do they?

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If you were colluding I really hope that you get busted hard, if you weren't I am sure that their won't be a problem.

As for the RB accounts, wouldn't they just stop paying the affliate? I don't think that would be reason to shut down your account, well at least not permanently.
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Old 01-02-2006, 01:16 PM
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if they decided they didn't like you because you're left-handed and wear Hanes underwear then you are mostly powerless to stop them imo.

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Dammit, I'm [censored].
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Old 01-02-2006, 02:02 PM
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"However, we do play similarly. As in more LAG than 2p2 TAG. They will quickly figure out we're not bots because we both isolate fish ridiculously and we throw in random raises and threebets based on the situation. "

Does this sound as super-sketchy to everyone else as it did to me? I read it and thought "Oh, so you were colluding, now you're making excuses about it."

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Where the 2 of you playing in the same room or comunicating via IM too?
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Old 01-02-2006, 02:29 PM
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Gibralt"A"r

and I'm not even certain this would be the country of jurisdiction.

They trade in the U.K., have servers in Canada - but on sovereign foreign (Native American) land - and may have assets in any of a dozen countries.

The world court is not well known for granting expedited trial dates.

"Justice delayed" may indeed be "justice denied" but they don't seem to be all that moved by this platitude.

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If we're talking about a good deal of money here, "technically" you could sue them in the US. (US federal and state jurisdictional rules tend to be very lax, suing foreign companies is not hard if htey have significant contacts within the US). You could even "technically" win. However, you don't have the resources to sue a mega-corporation in a trial that would take years, so "actually," no you can't sue them.
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Old 01-02-2006, 02:38 PM
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I've sued in Gibraltar - not that difficult - based on English common law after all..

That said in reality they will only seize your funds if you have been colluding - I sure hope you and your 'friend' didn't get 'psychic' at any point during your play ripping a hole in those high stakes tables..
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Old 01-02-2006, 03:53 PM
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Can PP track AIM conversations?
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Old 01-02-2006, 04:30 PM
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Wow. Are a lot of you just assuming we cheat because we play lots of tables together? We definitely don't cheat. We just both 8 table and we both use good table selection at 15/30. That means we will often be playing the same tables together since there are usually 20 tables of 15/30 max and many of them are not good tables. Late at night Pacific time there will be as few as 3-5 tables sometimes. Often times we'll be at all the 15/30 tables together, because well there are no other tables to be at.

Simple as that.

2. "Random raises and threebets" - as in my friend and I both are aggressive enough to raise almost any two in many situations if the situation seems to warrant it. For example, if a loose passive fish open limps EP, and I'm in MP, I'll raise many many hands here. This strategy is not advocated by 2p2, but I (and my friend) both do this. This does not mean I'll raise with 27o and he'll threebet with 27o and we try to bet someone out of the pot. When we do play multiway pots we play fairly straightforward. While we do threebet each other thin HU, the minimum he'd threebet me with is any pair and probably down to A8/A9o. And our headsup hands are definitely legit and we definitely try to extract extra bets from each other or try to outplay each ohter. Us being bots is not even a question

As to the rest of you who are suspicious of our play/style, just forget it because you either misinterpreted my previous posts or you just play less aggressive and tighter.

3. Finally someone said this has happened to them too (teddy). I'm glad this has happened to someone else too. I asked if I could sue (in the heat of the moment), now that I look at it my account is probably fine. So whatever.
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