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Old 03-09-2006, 09:49 AM
MTUCache MTUCache is offline
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Default Re: Wow! How does Ted make that call?

Wow... I really liked Gavin until he started adding the celebrating into his suckout celebrations.

Kido seemed to have a very friendly table image, but I wasn't impressed with any of the moves he made.

Ted Forrest was his usual self, although that mustache has GOT to go. Freaking awful... and when did his daughter start getting so hot?

Chris Bell did seem VERY passive until it got to three-handed. Strange, but he seemed like the weakest player at the Final Table. I feel bad for him though... two awful beats there, and then losing the coinflip to get busted. Tough way to lose at a Final Table.

Eugene Todd.... Total Douchebag. Which is probably why he made it to the Final Table. After playing with that guy for five minutes I'd be on perma-tilt trying to bust him. I hate playing with guys like that.

As for the other amateur... didn't see much of him, but he seemed decent enough. Tough making it to that point with the short stack, but at least he got some tv time.
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Old 03-09-2006, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Wow! How does Ted make that call?

First, let me agree that Ted Forrest is about as good as gets, but I really think he would have folded trips if that guy hadn't come over and stood right next to him. Ted looked pretty annoyed when he did that, maybe he was calling anyway but that sealed it.
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Old 03-09-2006, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Wow! How does Ted make that call?

Ted Forrest thoroughly impressed me making calls exactly at the right time, laying down 2nd best at the right times, and then betting to make someone else lay down the best hand at just the right time. The only mistake I saw was the last hand, heads up, it looked like he knew exactly what Gavin had, but felt he had to call. I thought he was going to make another incredible laydown when he lifted the cards up and showed the table cam... Either way, Ted needs to lose the 'stache and he's officially a Pimp
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Old 03-09-2006, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Wow! How does Ted make that call?

Ted needs to lose the 'stache and he's officially a Pimp

no way man, stache forrest rules! the stache represents pimpness to the fullest.
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:33 AM
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After watching that show I wished Gavin wouldn't have gone around giving high 5's after the 3 outer. I still think Gavin is a great guy.

Ted is just great. He made some laydowns I wish I was capable of making. He also made a call or two I doubt I could have made.

Chris Bell handled himself like an absolute champ.
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:53 AM
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Chris Bell handled himself like an absolute champ.

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I got to play with Chris for several hours at the Trump Classic last year and he is definitely a decent guy and a very good player. As an example, I cracked his KK with my 99 with about 12 people left and he did not complain one bit. I enjoyed playing against him.

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Old 03-09-2006, 12:00 PM
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How the hell did Ted lay that Aj vs 67 hand down? I'm positive that he called to induce the bluff on the river, though he probably should have reraised...if any other card comes on the river Chris probably busts out right there. But then it comes and SOMEHOW Ted smells the suckout...just amazing. My new hero...
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Old 03-09-2006, 12:05 PM
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After watching that show I wished Gavin wouldn't have gone around giving high 5's after the 3 outer. I still think Gavin is a great guy.


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It was a pretty bad call from Bell preflop. He even said outloud "you're moving in no matter the flop, aren't you?" He knew Smith was strong, but he didn't know whether it was JJ strong or AK (or AJ) strong. Pretty easy fold with A9 in that spot, IMO.
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Old 03-09-2006, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: WPT Season 4: Mirage Poker Showdown (3/8)

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Chris Bell handled himself like an absolute champ.

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I got to play with Chris for several hours at the Trump Classic last year and he is definitely a decent guy and a very good player. As an example, I cracked his KK with my 99 with about 12 people left and he did not complain one bit. I enjoyed playing against him.

Temp

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Temp, From what I've seen you handle yourself pretty good too. It seems more and more people do "The Helmuth".
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Old 03-09-2006, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: WPT Season 4: Mirage Poker Showdown (3/8)

What is everyone's thoughts on the AJ ('Brooklyn') vs. K9 (Griffin)? My first thought was pushing before the flop would be a good move, although Griffin had been playing tight, was in EP, therefore you may want to put him on a big hand. So I think Brooklyn should have pushed before the flop, result likely is hand over; or just folded...

But the chump calls in the SB (Kido also called the raise UTG+1). Flop comes KKJ. I would have to think Griffin has some sort of a good hand, some of which will contain a K, he will hold AA, QQ, KK (rare), JJ (rare). Who leads out on that flop? I think leading and seriously considering folding to a raise is in order on the flop. I think check-calling isn't too bad. There will be a lot of times when Griffin is just making a c-bet and likely only has 1 overcard, maybe 2 with a straight draw so no need to protect your hand. So check-call flop with the intention of check-calling the rest of the way provided an overcard does not fall?

Finally, leading the turn seems like nonsense to me by Brooklyn, obviously he was pretty confused during the hand. However, would Griffin ever bluff there? He has to put his opponent on a pretty big hand with all the shakes, so why would be bluff unless he thought for sure he could get the weakish player to fold a big hand? Was this one of the worst played hands you have ever seen??
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