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Old 08-15-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - SPR in action?

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Sorry, newb question: what's SPR?

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SPR = Stack to Pot Ratio

It is the size of the preflop pot, before any betting is done, divided into the size of the smallest remaining stack .

For example, if there is 100 bucks in the smallest stack and there was 10 bucks in the pot then the SPR is 10.



It is a newbie thing to a lot of us right now as the book has only been available for a few weeks. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The book I am referring to is Professional No-Limit Hold 'Em. I would suggest checking it out ASAP.

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FYP

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Whoops! I reordered my wording and did a poor job. Sorry if I caused any confusion.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - SPR in action?

Sorry for the bump, but I am in the process of reading the book, and wanted to talk through some things related to SPR.
I think that I have always thought in terms of how much of my stack or how much money I am willing to commit to the pot.

For instance, If I am playing NL25 with a $25 dollar stack and the big blind calls my raise to $1 with a $20 dollar stack behind, then lets say I hit top pair on a dry board. At this point, I am making a decision based on my opponent as to how much I'm putting in on this hand lets say $8 vs. a reasonably tight player and $15 vs. a loosey. If the money gets past that point somehow without me improving, then I am most likely going to fold.

Now with SPR and REM and all that I'm doing basically the same thing, except on the flop I can see that the SPR is actually 10, which is too high for me to commit, so I have an artificial SPR in my mind as to how much I'm committed for... (4 for the tighty and 7.5 for the loosey)
Does this make sense? If this is covered later in the book where I haven't read to yet, I apologize.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - SPR in action?

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Sorry for the bump, but I am in the process of reading the book, and wanted to talk through some things related to SPR.
I think that I have always thought in terms of how much of my stack or how much money I am willing to commit to the pot.

For instance, If I am playing NL25 with a $25 dollar stack and the big blind calls my raise to $1 with a $20 dollar stack behind, then lets say I hit top pair on a dry board. At this point, I am making a decision based on my opponent as to how much I'm putting in on this hand lets say $8 vs. a reasonably tight player and $15 vs. a loosey. If the money gets past that point somehow without me improving, then I am most likely going to fold.

Now with SPR and REM and all that I'm doing basically the same thing, except on the flop I can see that the SPR is actually 10, which is too high for me to commit, so I have an artificial SPR in my mind as to how much I'm committed for... (4 for the tighty and 7.5 for the loosey)
Does this make sense? If this is covered later in the book where I haven't read to yet, I apologize.

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It sounds like you have already been doing things that are suggested in the book. As you read on it may help you refine your knowledge of commitment and give you some new ways of using it for you and against your opponents.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:17 PM
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Awesome thread guys!!!

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Old 08-16-2007, 04:33 PM
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Now with SPR and REM and all that I'm doing basically the same thing, except on the flop I can see that the SPR is actually 10, which is too high for me to commit, so I have an artificial SPR in my mind as to how much I'm committed for... (4 for the tighty and 7.5 for the loosey)
Does this make sense? If this is covered later in the book where I haven't read to yet, I apologize.

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sounds good. we didn't get to how to play these hands in volume 1 other than don't let him get you all-in.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - SPR in action?

I think with this aggressive of a player I would rather have relative position to his right rather than absolute position to his left and I think this hand is a perfect example of why. You hit TP with a weak kicker on the flop, the blinds check, you check, let him bet (like he always does) then you get to see whether or not the blinds were slowplaying, if they fold, then you can check-call for his whole stack. As said elsewhere, if you are ahead he is only drawing to 2 - 5 outs so I would not be that concerned about protecting my hand on this type of flop.

Furthermore, by acting before him on each round you can keep checking to represent weakness which is like putting blood in the water for the hyperaggressive player who constantly thinks he can buy people out of pots.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:37 PM
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with him being so aggro and to my left he had pushed me off some other hands that may have been good. He was pushing everybody off hands...basically trying to win almost every pot.

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Leave the table and get position on him. He won't notice. Money flows clockwise around a table.

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If he's as predictably aggro as described, having him directly on our left is good. Being across the table also good. Having him on our immediate right, not as good, as we will frequently be put in the middle.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - SPR in action?

This is a quality post. Thanks everyone who took time to discuss OP's hand.
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