How bad is this play with KK?

[e_phemeral]

Live MTT. Down to 3 tables, about 25 people left, tourney pays the top 20. I have approx 60k in chips. Started with 10k. Average stack is about 41k. 2 players on my immediate left both have me outchipped at least 2 to 1. The rest of the players at the table have about the same chips as me or a little less, with a couple of short stacks.

I pick up KK in early position and...*gasp*...open raise all in. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[tomek322]

Blinds? People calling AI's? whatever, I rather make a small raise if the blinds were somewhat normal. So I can steal with normal raises and no one is the wiser.

[erocplayer]

aggression near the bubble is good, but you dont wanna do it this way i dont think.

id rather limp/RR or standard raise than an open shove.
im assuming you have plenty of blinds if you have 1.5x average and are more likely to get action on a raise that doesnt look so suspicious/out-of-the-ordinary
-eroc

[e_phemeral]

I think blinds were at 2k/4k with a 200 ante so roughly 7,600 in pot preflop. I open pushed for like 60k. My reasoning (fwiw) was that I didnt want to play with the two big stacks on my left so close to the bubble. Was hoping a short stack might call with AQ or JJ or TT or something like that. And if one of the big stacks woke up with a hand, then oh well, I went out with KK.

In retrospect, I think this was absolutely horrible. I should have raised to like 15k or so (1/4 of my stack). I had a real chance to earn some chips and I blew it.

I don't like the limp reraise myself. The way I was playing, limping from EP would have looked very suspicious.

[tomek322]

I don't like it... 12k to go and pray the big stacks call.

[crankalicious]

You want to earn money with that hand, not drive everyone out of the pot.

Post made me laugh though. I've done this. It's the difference between being a donk (in my case) and learning that the goal isn't necessarily to announce that you've got a PP. In this case, I totally identify with the mentality and it's pretty much fear-driven and if you play scared, you're in trouble.

[TwistedEcho]

seems terrible and scared money?

[Zizz]

This play lets your opponents lay down hands that they might otherwise play and stack off to you. "Very Bad" would be my answer to the question.

[betgo]

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seems terrible and scared money?

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You have 10xBB. If people won't think a smaller raise is suspicious, you can make a smaller raise. I don't see how the push is bad. I would be pushing any pp here.

[valenzuela]

The push is fine IMO.