Making HSP the ONLY Poker Show?

[da_fume]

Well first of all: Gabe Kaplan >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t; Norman Chad.

Secondly, how can someone say that there isn't a dynamic and ebb to cash tables? If you can't see what Wasika did to the table he was sitting at then you have basically no clue about poker.

Lastly, as much as I like PAD I can't STAND Shana. She's a complete airhead. If I wanted to waste an hour I would compile a huge list of her moronic interview questions (one sample: "Were you disappointed with how that last hand turned out?" said to Tony G after Ferguson rivered him for all the chips). I will say though that it was HILARIOUS when Phill Hellmuth came by out of the blue and commentated on hands while Shana played with her hair and said "ooooh".

[Hotel Detect]

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But there also needs to be some continuity and sense of moving the story along. HSP doesn't do this at all...it doesn't even seem to keep track of how much players have won or lost. The hands could be played out of order and it wouldn't make any difference. If asked to describe the "plot" of a HSP episode, you couldn't do it....yet you could describe the "plot" of a movie, or a baseball game, or an episode of WSOP.

I think the WSOP broadcasts do a much better job than any other at creating a good story. Of course, they have a built in advantage of the history behind the event, but ESPN gives viewers both a reason to care about the players and a sense of the overall "WSOP scene".

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You do not know the storylines b/c u have not watched enough episodes of HSP and you do not follow the poker world closely enough.

I live in las vegas and follow a lot of poker on the internet and know exactly what these guys are talking about, what their financial situations are, and how much their respective win/losses mean to them.

Armed with that sort of information HSP is VERY interesting and by far the best poker tv show.

If you were more knowledgeable on the subject you would find that the arguements that you are making do not hold water.

Finally, I think one main point that you are missing as well is that in poker the stats longterm basically come down to who makes the most money, not who wins some random tournament. So in this respect million dollar swings are very interesting and important.

[JackTenOffSuit]

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But there also needs to be some continuity and sense of moving the story along. HSP doesn't do this at all...it doesn't even seem to keep track of how much players have won or lost. The hands could be played out of order and it wouldn't make any difference. If asked to describe the "plot" of a HSP episode, you couldn't do it....yet you could describe the "plot" of a movie, or a baseball game, or an episode of WSOP.

I think the WSOP broadcasts do a much better job than any other at creating a good story. Of course, they have a built in advantage of the history behind the event, but ESPN gives viewers both a reason to care about the players and a sense of the overall "WSOP scene".

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You do not know the storylines b/c u have not watched enough episodes of HSP and you do not follow the poker world closely enough.

I live in las vegas and follow a lot of poker on the internet and know exactly what these guys are talking about, what their financial situations are, and how much their respective win/losses mean to them.

Armed with that sort of information HSP is VERY interesting and by far the best poker tv show.

If you were more knowledgeable on the subject you would find that the arguements that you are making do not hold water.

Finally, I think one main point that you are missing as well is that in poker the stats longterm basically come down to who makes the most money, not who wins some random tournament. So in this respect million dollar swings are very interesting and important.

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Hotel Detect - You make some really good points.
NickMPK - Like Hotel says, I think the precious "storylines" you're seeking would be plainly evident if you had any knowledge about the poker world. Watching Doyle berate the table for allowing (perpetually broke) Matusow to play $50k behind after he loaned money to Jamie Gold is a storyline anyone on 2+2 would find unbelieveably interesting. Certainly more interesting than Joe Awada's juggling abilities or how Brandon Cantu spends his afternoons.

[kflop]

HSP is the only poker show I watch anymore. But this thread is not about why it's the best poker on TV. I guess it's all a joke.

How about let's make the NFL the only football or the different HBO series the only drama on TV. Matter of fact, we should all moved back to Germany in 1942.

[action44]

hell i wish i just had the channel hsp is on.. lol

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lets just abolish tournaments

(not a level, i really would like this to happen)

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the cash game economy needs donkament winnars

[NickMPK]

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You do not know the storylines b/c u have not watched enough episodes of HSP and you do not follow the poker world closely enough.

I live in las vegas and follow a lot of poker on the internet and know exactly what these guys are talking about, what their financial situations are, and how much their respective win/losses mean to them.

Armed with that sort of information HSP is VERY interesting and by far the best poker tv show.

If you were more knowledgeable on the subject you would find that the arguements that you are making do not hold water.

Finally, I think one main point that you are missing as well is that in poker the stats longterm basically come down to who makes the most money, not who wins some random tournament. So in this respect million dollar swings are very interesting and important.

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Hotel Detect - You make some really good points.
NickMPK - Like Hotel says, I think the precious "storylines" you're seeking would be plainly evident if you had any knowledge about the poker world. Watching Doyle berate the table for allowing (perpetually broke) Matusow to play $50k behind after he loaned money to Jamie Gold is a storyline anyone on 2+2 would find unbelieveably interesting. Certainly more interesting than Joe Awada's juggling abilities or how Brandon Cantu spends his afternoons.

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I think I have decent knowledge of the "poker world" (although perhaps not the personal lives of high-stakes players). The stuff you're talking about sound more like gossip, and not something I find particularly interesting.

What I mean by "story line" is the ebb and flow of a tournament leading to the historic moment when a champion is crowned. It is useful to know a little about who the champion is, so the background pieces are a means to this end.

For those of you who say I am not real "poker fan" because I prefer watching tournaments, do you think people who would prefer watch The Masters to a random heads-up match between Tiger and Phil Mickelson are not real golf fans? You'll probably see better golf played in the latter, but the former is what history will remember.

I watch golf because I want to see Tiger win titles....I don't care about his personal life. Similarly, I don't care about Mike Matusow's personal life either...if I watch him, it is because I want him to watch him win titles.

[theman]

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HSP is the only poker show I watch anymore. But this thread is not about why it's the best poker on TV. I guess it's all a joke.

How about let's make the NFL the only football or the different HBO series the only drama on TV. Matter of fact, we should all moved back to Germany in 1942.

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At the very least, I think we could get rid of half of the shows out there...there are THAT many bad poker shows. And we could make HSP a premier show with its own 2 hour time slot.

But hey, isn't the NFL the ONLY football worth watching...what else is there?

-TheMan