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Old 07-30-2007, 04:12 AM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

And proof that the Sunday Million is nothing but a large organized lottery that probably hands out scholarships with the rake money.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

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And proof that the Sunday Million is nothing but a large organized lottery that probably hands out scholarships with the rake money.

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I have to admit... that made me LMFAO...
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

i came in 13th. here is the raymer hand,
POKERSTARS GAME #11211181234: TOURNAMENT #56058775, $500+$30 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XXIII (12500/25000) - 2007/07/30 - 00:43:07 (ET)
Table '56058775 89' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Xaston (522294 in chips)
Seat 2: bodog4life (1361276 in chips)
Seat 3: cantbeat (547779 in chips)
Seat 4: VuaXi`Tô' (266146 in chips)
Seat 5: Asprin1 (276432 in chips)
Seat 6: margy (70216 in chips)
Seat 7: sacker (1029129 in chips)
Seat 8: FossilMan (702195 in chips)
Seat 9: Dsavo (726718 in chips)
Xaston: posts the ante 2500
bodog4life: posts the ante 2500
cantbeat: posts the ante 2500
VuaXi`Tô': posts the ante 2500
Asprin1: posts the ante 2500
margy: posts the ante 2500
sacker: posts the ante 2500
FossilMan: posts the ante 2500
Dsavo: posts the ante 2500
Dsavo: posts small blind 12500
Xaston: posts big blind 25000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sacker [As Ks]
bodog4life: folds
cantbeat: folds
VuaXi`Tô': raises 38000 to 63000
Asprin1: folds
margy: folds
sacker: raises 963629 to 1026629 and is all-in
FossilMan: calls 699695 and is all-in
Dsavo: folds
Xaston: folds
VuaXi`Tô': folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6s 4h]
*** TURN *** [Qd 6s 4h] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6s 4h 8c] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sacker: shows [As Ks] (a pair of Kings)
FossilMan: shows [Td Ts] (a pair of Tens)
sacker collected 1522390 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1522390 | Rake 0
Board [Qd 6s 4h 8c Kc]
Seat 1: Xaston (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: bodog4life folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: cantbeat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: VuaXi`Tô' folded before Flop
Seat 5: Asprin1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: margy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sacker showed [As Ks] and won (1522390) with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: FossilMan (button) showed [Td Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 9: Dsavo (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

Yep I was 1 off position....sorry all
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

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i was the player who went allin and i think raymer made a bad call. i certainly would not go allin with a pair lower than tens, i would have just called preflop, and i very well might go allin with jj or QQ.

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Sounds like you admit you wouldnt push with KK or AA so maybe next time reraise a smaller amount?
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

Perhaps you should have typed "I have AK and am isolating" in the chat before you shoved. I def agree with Raymers assessment, based on the stacks I can't imagine your range having Raymer beat, I think you're looking with a biased eye in regards to your range to make it seem like you outplayed follisman or something.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

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Perhaps you should have typed "I have AK and am isolating" in the chat before you shoved. I def agree with Raymers assessment, based on the stacks I can't imagine your range having Raymer beat, I think you're looking with a biased eye in regards to your range to make it seem like you outplayed follisman or something.

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Old 07-30-2007, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

obviously my most likely hand is ak however my range is not any pp. it is qq and jj and possibly 99.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

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obviously my most likely hand is ak however my range is not any pp. it is qq and jj and possibly 99.

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So given your incredibly tight range of 99-QQ and AK, he's 47.4 to 52.6 and needs 1.11:1 to call.

He's getting 1.09:1.

Now keep in mind this is for that range, which I think you should definitely take QQ out of at least partially - if you take out 2 of the combinations of QQ now suddenly Raymer is 50/50 vs. your range, and still your range is incredibly tight.

What are you doing with AQ here? Are you really flatting PPs <9s?
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: Sunday Million- Raymer\'s bustout hand

IMO, Raymers situation is much tougher in the million where people are way less likely to PUT THEIR TOURNAMENT LIFE ON THE LINE!!! light.

In some random stars 109/150 or 100r or what not his logic is excellent, in this tournament it becomes way more borderline unless villain is known thinking player.
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