$25 NL...Rivered 2nd nuts: 400 BB pot

[Tsunami11]

Anyway I could see this coming?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $27.75
BB: $46.85
UTG: $16.80
UTG+1: $20.15
MP1: $39.10
MP2: $75.15
MP3: $2.70
CO: $9.65
Hero (BTN): $50.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, MP2 calls $2.00

Turn: ($6.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, MP2 calls $4.00

River: ($14.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $13.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $67.75</font>, Hero calls all-in for $13.10
Uncalled bet of $24.65 returned to MP2

Pot Size: $100.55 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Ten high) and WON (+$47.45)
Hero had 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Nine high) and LOST (-$50.10)

[bills427]

i woulda stacked off there

[hennnerz]

All OK, raise a little more preflop, like 1.25. Maybe check this turn too. Go all in on river.

Oh and don't post the results. Although from the title what happens is clear.

[UncleGogi]

I would just call his PSB on river if he isn't absolute idiot.

[JoseyWales]

Most of the money went in on river, not good. What hands you think you beat there. I think it's a split at best. I would just call the river. Your hand may be 2nd nuts but it's still not that strong, more like a bluff catcher.

[PureNHL]

This really depends on table dynamics. Without a read on the opponent I probably just call. If he shows any kind of history of making big river bluffs I play this the same way.

[Leiviskae]

I would call river and catch bluff, I think he bets only bluff if he doesn´t have 8 here.

[Prodigy54321]

I'm new to this...but no way I'm just calling the river.

if he has T8 so be it...and you can certainly get value from a raise on the river...it's hard for him to call a raise on the river with a 1 card straight out there...but what about your line would make him think you are likely to have an 8 here anyway?

a raise is definitely worth it IMO

[Prodigy54321]

bump to see if anyone agrees with me or i'm crazy

[Heine]

If villain is as bad as he looks. This river is a call.

Why are we raising a split pot at best? If he's a retard and slow played KK/AA here, then in that unlikely situation we might miss some value. But the board does have 4 to a straight on it. Against bad players the gut shot is definitely in their calling range. I see no point in raising.