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Old 07-16-2007, 11:59 AM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default Re: 100/200NL live 2-pair hand

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i've played with both players before. this is a pretty easy all in given all the information. Kevin would reraise Jamie here with any reasonable ace... and given the action Kevin can't have AA, and 99 or 66 is extremely unlikely given your 96. Just about the only way you are beat is Kevin having A6 or A9 suited... you still might get called by AK or AQ by either player, or a monster draw... but i don't see any way you can fold 96 here for 22k. and calling is by far worse then shoving.

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Thanks. Here is what happened. I shoved based on basically the above analysis. Jamie insta-folded (surprised?) and then Kevin sat for about five minutes and agonized. He finally said in all seriousness "I am just not good enough to lay this down to you" and called! Turn and river were 5, 5. I said "I have two-pair" and probably everyone thought I had AK, he showed a set of 9s.

I left thinking that this may have been nothing more than a cooler, but I wondered whether or not there was a way to play this hand with as much upside and less downside. All two pairs are really unlikely here as are sets, but I have lost bottom two to middle set before and I have not won big pots very often with bottom two. The all-in shove drives out everything but the sets and big draws. I now think that there I am getting called only by AA, 99, 66, A9, A6 and 7s8s (str8, flush draw) and maybe pair + flush draw (my best shot) I have very little equity and he needs to fold 70% of the time for this to be profitable.

I think it's possible as someone else said that my push would have folded out A9, A6 and possibly even 66 given that he was considering folding 99. BTW, the table reprimanded him severely for not insta-calling with 99 (I told him later I could not believe he hesitated, but Kevin is a good guy and genuinely considered laying it down as he was seriously worried about AA).

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the way you talk about "not having equity" makes me think you're completly not taking into account the dead money in the pot and the poss that your hand is goot. There's like 7-8k in there, you have 20k and you have bottom two against someone who raised jamie gold... obv it depends on your read of the raiser(and you [censored] yourself by letting jamie gold define your hand)
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