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Old 03-04-2006, 03:32 PM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default A hand

Live game. Villan is loosish and more aggressive than most but plays reasonably well overall. We've played together enough to be familiar with each other, he likely thinks I'm somewhat tight/predictable - at least relative to himself.

I open raise in MP with ThTc. He 3-bets out of the BB. I 4-bet (pretty standard against his range here if that gives you an idea), he calls.

Flop is Ah 9h 3c. He checks, I bet, he calls.

Turn is 8s. He pauses, ponders and bets. I raise, he calls.

River is 6c. He pauses again, bets again. I call.

Thoughts?
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Old 03-04-2006, 03:43 PM
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If your read is he would checkraise the flop or turn with an ace then I think I kind of get you.

Would he five bet pocket nines? He probably wouldn't with 33 I assume.

I guess I don't get the line (other than the force a flush draw to pay) because I'm not sure about the turn raise-isn't it trying to get to showdown/price out a flush draw + get some value against a middle pair?

Hell I don't know, if I'm against a player who wants to get tricky on all the streets I just call turn and river.
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: A hand

My first thought is that way too many bets went into an A high board w/ TT
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:10 PM
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My first thought is that way too many bets went into an A high board w/ TT

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So play the hand.
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:20 PM
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Seeing as how he thinks you're tight/predictable, I really don't think you win this hand. Once he calls your turn raise i really think he has the A and you are screwed.

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Old 03-04-2006, 04:44 PM
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i think you lost. or you beat 77. but i don't like it.
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:45 PM
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but i don't like it.

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Same thing Poker101 said. I don't necessarily like it either, or I wouldn't have posted it. Feel free to actually suggest alternative lines.
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: A hand

I fold the river. I assume villian has a mid Ace.

On the flop, he doesn't checkraise, since he views you as tight and that you will fold the turn with a medium pocket pair.

He also doesn't want to checkraise the turn because you will fold for the same reasons, and might even check behind. So he donk bets the turn, hoping you will call down. When you raise, he puts you on either KK or QQ or AK. If you have QQ or KK, you are raising for a free showdown of course, but he is not going to threebet still fearing AK, also if he does three bet, you will fold a worse hand.

On the river its obviously he is bet/folding, as he assumes you will make a crying call, and even possibly just call with AK.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:01 PM
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I think he has a hand such as QhJh or something often enough that you need to call the river, given that he probably views you as tight enough to fold some non ace pairs. His line just doesn't _feel_ like the way he should plausibly play an ace.

I assume you were going to check behind on the river?

I'm pretty sure I raise the turn too because I generally take the "pauses, ponders, bets" thing live as meaning he doesn't like his hand that much, but doesn't know what to do with it.

I like the post, glad to see you outside of Sports/OOT/NVG again.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:34 PM
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This guy missed his flush draw, and you played it perfectly.
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