200nl- QQ 200bbs deep and donk shoves flop

kaz2107 · #1 07-08-2007, 01:17 AM

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button raises to $8, Hero raises to $32, 4 folds, Button calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($72, 2 players)
Hero bets $53, Button raises all-in $429.95, Hero ???

Reads and thoughts...

Villian is tha donk of tha table. he was playin 70 20 3 but only over 15 hands. hadnt seen him do this and i had only played one hands where i raised and won tha pot with a cbet. wut on earth is goin on here. just dump it and look for better spots or call.

at the time i was thinkin since he sucks he could have any over pair and then prolly some combo draws and maybe even tp type hands. wut do u think of this range?!?!

skiier04 · #2 07-08-2007, 01:21 AM

If villain really is a donk then I snapcall.

Against nitty regulars its a pretty clear fold though, so this one comes down to reads.

jordiepop · #3 07-08-2007, 01:24 AM

sick spot.

i keep thinking what i would have if i was villian and it would prob be a set. but then again im not villian and he could be a complete moron. all in all i think u see a set or a combo draw a lot more than u see a hand like 99. i think i would muck

On_The_Grind · #4 07-08-2007, 01:50 AM

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If villain really is a donk then I snapcall.

Against nitty regulars its a pretty clear fold though, so this one comes down to reads.

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fees · #5 07-08-2007, 01:54 AM

This is close.. last couple of times this [censored] happened to me it was the overpair.. his range here is basically JJQQAAKK.. since we're so deep I think that makes it a fold

Dire · #6 07-08-2007, 01:58 AM

WHAt IS youR STACK SIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????? ???/

jordiepop · #7 07-08-2007, 02:00 AM

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WHAt IS youR STACK SIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????? ???/

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read title

On_The_Grind · #8 07-08-2007, 02:04 AM

200BB deep

Dire · #9 07-08-2007, 02:10 AM

fooooooooooolddddddddddddddddddddddddddd... everyimt i see this crap from some goofy ass donk, its kk/aa. maybe for 100, not 200 bb though.

Devilboy666 · #10 07-08-2007, 02:38 AM

My guess would be that his range (if he's a real idiot donk) is a set (66 or 77), a pair bigger than the board and scared of the flushdraw (i.e. 88-JJ), sometimes AA or KK and also AsKs.

I don't know if he could play 8s9s like this, but I guess it's possible.

Against this range it's a clear call, but if you exclude 88-JJ your equity drops to almost nothing. Without a really good read I can't see how you can call this.