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Old 07-03-2007, 09:39 AM
Diana Ross Fan Diana Ross Fan is offline
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

If we want to open another can of worms, don't we stop toking if the rake is too high?

I don't stop all together in an over-raked game but I sure cut back on most of the tipping.
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

People whined a few years ago when rooms went to $4.00 from $3.00. Nothing happened though. Poker isn't immune from inflation.

Also, the Red Rock is sick sick sick busy on the weekends. This makes perfect sense for them from a demand standpoint. They will be full on the weekends no matter what.

And during the week, the vast majority of their customers aren't going to drive an extra 30-45 minutes roundtrip to play on the strip to avoid an extra dollar. Heck, that's $5.00 in gas right there, plus the hassle. Location is by far the #1 driver for most local gamers.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:21 PM
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People whined a few years ago when rooms went to $4.00 from $3.00. Nothing happened though. Poker isn't immune from inflation.



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True, but if inflation is the driving cause then the stakes should go up as well. I wouldn't mind a rise in rake if they would do away with 2-4 and 3-6 games.

Sigh, but that won't happen. I noticed in Vegas that a lot of tourists wanted to pay X dollars for the poker experience, not actually play and win.

I'm sure we could have a fun time explaining to tourists that we'd be better off in a bigger game.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

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If we want to open another can of worms, don't we stop toking if the rake is too high?

I don't stop all together in an over-raked game but I sure cut back on most of the tipping.

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Get off the soap box. This isn't a tipping thread. There is no reason to hurt the dealer's because the casino raised the rake.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:58 PM
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If we want to open another can of worms, don't we stop toking if the rake is too high?

I don't stop all together in an over-raked game but I sure cut back on most of the tipping.

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Get off the soap box. This isn't a tipping thread. There is no reason to hurt the dealer's because the casino raised the rake.

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It's not about hurting the dealers.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

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If we want to open another can of worms, don't we stop toking if the rake is too high?

I don't stop all together in an over-raked game but I sure cut back on most of the tipping.

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Get off the soap box. This isn't a tipping thread. There is no reason to hurt the dealer's because the casino raised the rake.

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It's not about hurting the dealers.

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Here we go again.
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

I if RR got rid of 2-4 do you think it would drive more traffic to the 8-16? Is there a spillover effect of raising the lowest limit that kinda pushs people up, or would everyone just still play 4-8?
I wish they could get a 15-30 going.
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

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If we want to open another can of worms, don't we stop toking if the rake is too high?

I don't stop all together in an over-raked game but I sure cut back on most of the tipping.

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Get off the soap box. This isn't a tipping thread. There is no reason to hurt the dealer's because the casino raised the rake.

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Although normally I think Photoc would be correct the moment a tipping discussion turns to a soapbox issue, this is a good example of a time where I would expect many of the locals to exercise this option and therefore is fair ground to discuss. Personally I think its the wrong choice, but the forum can't ignore the fact that many people will show their anger by refusing to tip and in turn affecting management over time (after first affecting the dealers of course).
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

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If we want to open another can of worms, don't we stop toking if the rake is too high?

I don't stop all together in an over-raked game but I sure cut back on most of the tipping.

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Get off the soap box. This isn't a tipping thread. There is no reason to hurt the dealer's because the casino raised the rake.

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Although normally I think Photoc would be correct the moment a tipping discussion turns to a soapbox issue, this is a good example of a time where I would expect many of the locals to exercise this option and therefore is fair ground to discuss. Personally I think its the wrong choice, but the forum can't ignore the fact that many people will show their anger by refusing to tip and in turn affecting management over time (after first affecting the dealers of course).

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100% won't happen in any meaningful way for more than a brief period.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Red Rock rake rises

Silly outsider question:

Are the Las Vegas casinos free to choose what rake they charge? I'm more accustomed to the idea of gambling-commission-mandated maximum rakes (which 99.9% of the rooms take), and a big fuss about changing the rake once every ten years or so...
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