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Old 06-21-2007, 09:27 PM
Hamish McBagpipe Hamish McBagpipe is offline
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To hear people today, you'd think that it's a divinely-ordained law that every worthless drone born in Ohio or Illinois must have a cushy union job that pays him far out of proportion to the value of his labor.

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Oh yeah, the phone is just ringing off the hook with employees dying to create unions within their workplace. Come off it, the union movement has been virtually destroyed in the US and you're still complaining that some people still harken back to a time (but don't do *%&^ all about it) when they could make a decent living for their families, doing an industrial job, without the fear of execution-style firings and intimidation.

The callous dismissal of the massive US working class and its attempts to better itself is regrettable.
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Old 06-23-2007, 05:49 AM
Brainwalter Brainwalter is offline
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Sure, I'm a 55 year old semi-skilled, trades, or manufacturing worker in Pittsburgh with 35 years in and it is too bad for me? Sorry, Bob, I'm going to try to protect my job. My freedom of association is still OK with you isn't it?


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OK but what about my freedom of association? For whatever reason I want to hire an immigrant and I don't give a rat's ass about looking for a qualified American first.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:53 AM
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I watched this video while playing poker so maybe the point was lost on me. Are they looking for non americans out of spite? Will the hire an American who is the most qualified and the cheapest candidate? Or is this company just looking for the best person to hire and just using a hole in the system to find the best worked regardless of the country of origin?

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Hiring H1-B workers is generally more about how foreigners are willing to work for less than finding the candidate who will do the best work. The anedcotal evidence I've heard suggests that H1-B employees generally do poor work. Bobman is way off when he talks about how companies just want to hire the best employees and American workers should go out to get skills. American employees have the skills, employers just don't want to pay for them.

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If they have skills that overcome the wage disparity, they will hire them. If you can hire two workers who are each 60% as productive as one more skilled worker, but each at half the cost (including wages, benefits, training, turnover etc) of the more skilled worker, which are you going to do?
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