Let's find ways to dismiss American workers

[Brainwalter]

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I don't think you andwered either of my questions.

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It's none of my business since I'm not applying for a job at one of their clients companies, but does that mean I can't have an opinion?

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Well sure you can have an opinion, we all know what those are like. But the fact you're posting about your opinion on Politics implies you might want politicians to "do something" to "fix the problem". Otherwise what sort of duscussion are you hoping to elicit? We all just talk about whether these people ought to hire more or less Americans with their own money?

[Richard Tanner]

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Who cares? The companies shouldn't have to go through ANY idiot hoops before they look to immigrant workers. If they want to hire foreign workers and ignore U.S. workers, because of salary or whatever other reason, fine, let them. Don't buy the company's services if you don't like it.

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No kidding sir. This is an awful debate. "How many whites/blacks/latinos did we hire today", well how's about "who gives a damn". Hire the best emplyees.

Cody

[JuntMonkey]

Here's a [censored] idiot comment on the YouTube page:

"wow.... sucks to be an American :\

Apparently people don't count for anything when business is involved. It's really unfortunate."

Here's my response:

"Um...non-Americans are people too. If they can do the job better and cheaper than we can, more power to them."

[bobman0330]

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Here's a [censored] idiot comment on the YouTube page:

"wow.... sucks to be an American :\

Apparently people don't count for anything when business is involved. It's really unfortunate."

Here's my response:

"Um...non-Americans are people too. If they can do the job better and cheaper than we can, more power to them."

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Blech, why'd you induce me to read that comment page? Just depressing. Apparently everyone's economic woes can be blamed on three groups: America-hating traitors, lawyers, and (of course) the Jews.

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I watched this video while playing poker so maybe the point was lost on me. Are they looking for non americans out of spite? Will the hire an American who is the most qualified and the cheapest candidate? Or is this company just looking for the best person to hire and just using a hole in the system to find the best worked regardless of the country of origin?

[AzDesertRat]

Labor is a commodity, and if companies can get better qualified candidates to do the job for less, it is their prerogative. You may not agree with it, but that is their choice. If push comes to shove and the companies start getting fined by the DOJ and DOL, they will just move overseas so everyone loses.

It sucks, but it is reality. Why am I reminded of this when I see reports like this? If you don't like do what JuntMonkey said:

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Who cares? The companies shouldn't have to go through ANY idiot hoops before they look to immigrant workers. If they want to hire foreign workers and ignore U.S. workers, because of salary or whatever other reason, fine, let them. Don't buy the company's services if you don't like it.

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I do the same and "boycott" my share of companies---Qwest, Amex, ATT are all on my "do not buy" list along with other firms for various reasons, although none of them are for their labor practices.

[pvn]

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Here's a [censored] idiot comment on the YouTube page:

"wow.... sucks to be an American :\

Apparently people don't count for anything when business is involved. It's really unfortunate."

Here's my response:

"Um...non-Americans are people too. If they can do the job better and cheaper than we can, more power to them."

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Blech, why'd you induce me to read that comment page? Just depressing. Apparently everyone's economic woes can be blamed on three groups: America-hating traitors, lawyers, and (of course) the Jews.

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Perhaps the haters in ATF (etc) who think the 2+2 politics forum is "unreadable" should have to read a few comment pages like that.

[iron81]

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I watched this video while playing poker so maybe the point was lost on me. Are they looking for non americans out of spite? Will the hire an American who is the most qualified and the cheapest candidate? Or is this company just looking for the best person to hire and just using a hole in the system to find the best worked regardless of the country of origin?

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Hiring H1-B workers is generally more about how foreigners are willing to work for less than finding the candidate who will do the best work. The anedcotal evidence I've heard suggests that H1-B employees generally do poor work. Bobman is way off when he talks about how companies just want to hire the best employees and American workers should go out to get skills. American employees have the skills, employers just don't want to pay for them.

[canis582]

This is about breaking the law to screw americans over for the benefit of a few managers and shareholders.

Real wages for 90 percent of americans are declining. You are terrible people if you want that trend to continue.

[natedogg]

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This is about breaking the law to screw americans over for the benefit of a few managers and shareholders.

Real wages for 90 percent of americans are declining. You are terrible people if you want that trend to continue.

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1. the law is stupid and self destructive. A free flow of labor benefits all.

2. Ah, the other guy is just evil. A classic debate tactic.

natedogg