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#71
06-06-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: exactly how bad IS phil hellmuth?
jah7 i cant believe your spending so much time argueing with this totally sad troll. 10 wsop baracelets a fluke????? cmon lets not talk chit
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#73
06-12-2007, 10:05 PM
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Re: exactly how bad IS phil hellmuth?
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would 11 change things ? Hellmuth makes history with 11th World Series win [/ QUOTE ] ONLY 11 ?!?!?! WORST... PLAYER... EVER... (to win 11 bracelets). He still is the worst chinese poker player though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#75
06-14-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: exactly how bad IS phil hellmuth?
one of the best tournament players out there but one of the worst cash game pros i have ever seen. He has said how he gets bored and plays bad hands in ring games but he is able control himself in multis
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#76
06-14-2007, 09:48 PM
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Re: exactly how bad IS phil hellmuth?
lol @ gobo saying he understands poker better than Phil. Are you talking about NLHE MTT poker? or general poker (like HORSE). I honestly think Phil Hell has a much better understanding of the MTT NLHE game.
Most of my critiques about Phil Hell are somewhat jokes, (sometimes not). I have no doubt in my mind that he would be better than gobbo in a live WSOP structured NLHE MTT over the long run. Why? sample size. Internet pros bring up hands played over and over; IMO, there are significant differences btwn online and live MTTs. And Phil Hell has alot more hands in the WSOP setting than most Internet pros. BTW, I am not picking a fight w/ you. You obv are a great player, and by the time you Phill's age, you may be one hell of a player. But I think saying your better than Phil when you have gone deep once in a a WSOP style environment if foolish.
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#77
06-17-2007, 02:31 AM
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Re: exactly how bad IS phil hellmuth?
Live poker is ridiculously easy. Phil would be a losing player online. All winning online players can crush the live circuit.
p.s. AND THEY DO so don't reply with any "oh yea why don't they then" crap p.p.s. Phil is still possibly the best NLHE Live Tournament Player in very weak fields because of his image despite many horrible flaws/leaks in his game. He is that good at abusing bad players.
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#78
06-17-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: exactly how bad IS phil hellmuth?
(most of this was posted in another Hellmuth thread, but...)
Hey people, Tiger Woods is just a good golf TOURNAMENT PLAYER. He's not the best golf player. TOURNAMENTS dont mean anything. I know this guy, Splunky, who plays video golf and he is way better than Tiger. Splunky says live golf tournaments dont matter. Splunky went to a big golf tournament but he had a tummy ache and he missed his mommy and his eczema acted up and he didnt golf his best game. But he went on the internet afterwards and told everybody else he was still the best, that tournaments dont prove anything. Splunky is 21 and rarely gets action but he says he is the best at everything. Does this made-up analogy sound familiar? My joking here is over. HELLMUTH has a complete game. Few people do. Cunningham does. Tournaments are where rivalries are settled and champions are crowned. Winning multiple bracelets is supposed to end the trash-talking, not spark it. And a complete player knows how to beat good players AND bad players. Doyle says Hellmuth is the best tournament player in USA Today. USA internet poker is too inaccessible for most people now (especially donks). USA internet poker is dying. Hail to the King! (Hellmuth)
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#79
06-17-2007, 01:42 PM
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Re: exactly how bad IS phil hellmuth?
Your analogy is terrible. I already responded here, where I went through a lot effort to explain why poker tournaments are different than cash games.
How you can equate online poker to video golf is beyond me. The two are not even close to analogous. As far as the golf tournament anaology itself, what adjustments do you think Tiger makes when he plays a tournament vs. a round of golf? I assume that his game stays fairly the same. However, going between cash games and poker tournament requires a LOT of adjustment. You cannot play the same game and expect to do well. Thus, being at the top of one is not proof that you are at the top of the other. PH has no public record demonstrating that he is good at adjusting his game for cash games.
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