UTG standards...with warm legs...

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I don't think any of us have enough of a sample size to know for sure. well, maybe sethy does [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

fwiw I don't think it really matters whether your UTG cutoff is A9o vs ATo, A7s vs A8s, K9s vs KTs, etc. saying that it's pissing away money seems like an overstatement since these are such marginal hands in this position that it can't be very + or - EV in either direction.