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Old 06-10-2007, 06:43 PM
thunder911 thunder911 is offline
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

I think when talking about Lindas Blog its important to find out if she is being truthful.

Thats far more dangerous and slanderous from a legal standpoint.
If she is slandering Farha and Townsend then it opens her up.

If she is telling the truth then I think its pretty clear that as she has been blogging in public for a long time that her employees are not unhappy about it.
I am sure they would have moved quickly with a new contract to forbid such activity.
I am sure corporate lawyers would have sent a C & D.

So again I think its important to find out which party is being economical with the truth?
Maybe this would be better discussed on N, V & G.
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

For some reason I read through about 2/3 of this before I decided to reply. Apologies if what I'm about to say has been covered in that last 1/3.

Blah blah, blah blah blahblahblah. Blah, blah blah blah, blahblah blah blah! Blah? Blahblahblah, blah blah blah blah; blah, blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah, blah blah. Blah.

Okay, I now feel a part of the discussion. I hope you find my comments as intriguing and informative as most of the thread.
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

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I think when talking about Lindas Blog its important to find out if she is being truthful.

Thats far more dangerous and slanderous from a legal standpoint.
If she is slandering Farha and Townsend then it opens her up.

If she is telling the truth then I think its pretty clear that as she has been blogging in public for a long time that her employees are not unhappy about it.
I am sure they would have moved quickly with a new contract to forbid such activity.
I am sure corporate lawyers would have sent a C & D.

So again I think its important to find out which party is being economical with the truth?
Maybe this would be better discussed on N, V & G.

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Ok that was perhaps the most nonsensical post of this thread...
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

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TT,

I think the argument for "trade secrets - customer habits" would be much stronger if Linda discussed the play of hands or the participants play in any way. She, rather pointedly, did not do so:
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Brian and Sam talked a little back and forth about who was winner, who won yesterday, etc. I do not know and I do not care, it has nothing to do with me so I don’t care to report any of that.

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(also, I call BS on the "not caring", who won. I mean, she probably wasn't emotionally invested, but from a strictly informational point of view, how could you not be curious? But whatevs...)

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This whole conversation is ludicrous. Trade secrets has nothing to do with it. Bellagio can fire Linda for any damn thing they want, even wearing those silly hats she seems to like. That is assuming, however, it doesn't violate any contract she might have. Any discussion about whether Bellagio can fire Linda in this situation that discusses ANYTHING beyond "she's an at-will employee" or "the specifics of her contract" are way out in left field, and totally inapplicable. God, this thread is as bad as some of the "I was fired for blah blah blah, can I sue for wrongful termination threads" in OOT.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

Seriously though dealing poker is like not much higher than mcdonalds on the ladder of the "skilled labor" in the world

DEMANDING TIPS IS RUDE AND ARROGANT.

IF you want more money go get a better f'in job and get educated.

You're dealing poker. You are expendable as far as society is concerned.

mod note: This is a good example of what TT mentioned earlier in the thread is not allowed. -RR
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

Dude, get off your soap box. We dont need yet more preaching about tipping. That it not the purpose of this thread! Read the posts above by the mods and keep this crap off the forums. This thread is about the blogging of daily activities of poker players in a casino, whether good or bad. It's not about a tipping crusade.
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:01 AM
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I don't know why people getting bent out of shape here. I was recently at the Venetto casino in Panama city,Panama Playing Nl omaha with many Columbian drug lords and Asian mafia cause of this place being next to Columbia and overlooking the Panama canal.Anyway, I noticed that besides these people passing money to each other including myself for a good luck thing between hands, there was no tipping of the dealer even though some pots were in the thousands. You may call the poker room there in Panama to find out why this is, if you real picky about dealers being stiffed, which is the title of this thread right.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

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I think when talking about Lindas Blog its important to find out if she is being truthful.

Thats far more dangerous and slanderous from a legal standpoint.
If she is slandering Farha and Townsend then it opens her up.

If she is telling the truth then I think its pretty clear that as she has been blogging in public for a long time that her employees are not unhappy about it.
I am sure they would have moved quickly with a new contract to forbid such activity.
I am sure corporate lawyers would have sent a C & D.

So again I think its important to find out which party is being economical with the truth?
Maybe this would be better discussed on N, V & G.

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Ok that was perhaps the most nonsensical post of this thread...

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2nd only to yours.

There is a vast difference between posting truthful events and untruthful events that may damage the reputation of someone in the public eye.

The whole crux of Lindas blog is the claim that BT and SF stiffed the dealers in EVERY session.

BT says he did not and had a rack of redbirds he tipped with.

If BT can prove he did tip on a regular basis then it opens up Linda to possible legal action.

If what Linda wrote was untrue you would expect BT to demand
that it be taken down instantly.

Imagine you were a semi-public figure who could derive future income from sponsorships and endorsments ect ect.
If somebody lied about me in an effort to ruin my reputation I would be screaming my head off about it.
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Old 06-11-2007, 12:04 PM
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You stated the second quoted portion as a fact (i.e. "she IS disclosing", versus, "she MIGHT be disclosing". Perhaps your call to Casino Control should have been made prior to accusing her of "disclosing trade secrets," but that is beside the point.

More importantly, "disclosing information about a casino customer's habits" and "disclosing trade secrets" are NOT the same thing. Are you recinding your accusation that she "disclosed trade secrets" by publishing the fact that she got stiffed?

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I'm pretty sure it could be argued in a court of law that disclosing customer habits without prior permission would be considered disclosing trade secrets. I'll call my lawyer and ask him for a legal opinion if your willing to pay his hourly fee [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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No way.

I'm a hundred posts behind but there's no way this is a trade secret.

Do dealers sign employment contracts? I never heard that before.

Unless there is something specific in the contract to proect her (and there's almost surely not) then it's employment-at-will which means they can fire her for just about any lawful reason, including something like this.
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Old 06-13-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

TT,

As others have already pointed out, this blogging issue has nothing to do with trade secrets.
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