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Old 05-31-2007, 03:33 PM
psandman psandman is offline
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Default Re: Dealer\'s call

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my chips and move them from behind my card to the front of my cards and try to count them and decide if im going to call.


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You made a forward motion and put chips out in front of your cards. You've made a bet/call. As soon as your release chips in front of your cards constitutes making a bet/call/raise. Dont make forward motion next time and keep the chips behind your cards. Correct ruling.

Regarding the line. If they have a "betting line" it may not actually be a betting line except in tournaments. I know Venetian and several others in Vegas use the line only for tournaments and some don't use them at all because of problems like this.

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Even in rooms which don't us ethe line as a "betting line" where something that goes over the line is a bet, there is generally an understanding that a player may count out his chips up to that line without it being called a bet.

If it actually happened the way the OP described I would never call this a "call" and would be shocked to see any dealer make this call. Of course my reading of this post suggests the chips were closer to cards then the line, but if the OP was just grabiing stacks of chips and putting them out near the line (as opposed to bring out a stack and counting it) then i could certainly see it being a "call"
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