86s facing a turn donk

[The.Accountant]

SB is 27/14/1.2 (118) and is quite bad based on my first impression.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $483.40
UTG+1: $192
CO: $92.45
Button: $244.40
SB: $789.90
Hero: $241

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($46, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $23</font>,

[13_Xerxes]

Raise 70$, fold to a push, to check the river in position ?

[The.Accountant]

if we raise the turn i think it's with the intention of calling a push..

raising and then folding seems kind of silly to me...

[Imrahil]

Raising and folding is pretty bad I think. I call.

[Dire]

Raise/folding doesn't seem bad with 220 still behind. Hard to see him going back over the top with worse than middle two. Anyhow, I'd just call. More value I think.

[SkyyCaptain]

Personally I'd call. He completed so we could be up against a heck of a lot of hands. I'd say we're up againts top pair or better here?

Additionally raising here scares off a lot of hands we want in. We don't want top/over pair to bail since its only 8 outs to improve. Raising again I think scares off anything that isn't at LEAST top pair and TPWK might well go with it.

I'd call here with the intention of calling most river bets as well.


Theres no way to know were up against a set or better two pair but its possible. Still I don't think the action so far screams out "beaten" so I'd call-call. Notice he hasn't reraised you which is why I lean towards him having a 10. He could also have something like J9. If they were both clubs it'd make his turn bet slightly more feasible.

Again, usual disclaimer, fairly green so please feel free to correct but if you feel the need to please justify it clearly so I can learn

[wrkingtobegreat]

*Grunch* You have to fold. He might have played the hand this way with big overcards or a big pocket pair, but he didn't raise preflop, so this is unlikely. He MIGHT do this with top pair (10s), but I think we are way behind his range most of the time here with bottom two.

[tarheeljks]

i just call, but if i raise i'm calling a push. he could just have tp or some pair and a gut shot

[FGators]

No way in hell Im folding. I might even MINRAISE the river if he throws out what looks like a goofy $45 blocker and the river card is kind looking.

[spyderracing]

Call turn and river. The phrase "Don't go broke in unraised pots." comes to mind.