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Old 05-11-2007, 06:01 AM
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Default My two bluffs, need your opinion.

Situation 1.

Villain is 25/21/4 and 3-bet me quite often. 140 hands. WTSD - 15%.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $430.37
BB: $141.50
UTG: $198.45
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $278.08</font>
CO: $200.00
BTN: $271.61

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $22.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $15.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($47) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $28.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $67.00</font>, BTN calls $39.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($181) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $140.00</font>

Situation 2.

Villain is 19/12/1.84 WTSD 35% - 600 hands.
I know cont. bet on this flop is not a good idea, but would you bet on this turn as played?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $400.00
BB: $722.00
UTG: $846.82
MP: $1,361.17
CO: $876.29
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $835.60</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $4.00, CO calls $4.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $20.00, CO calls $20.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($78) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
MP checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $58.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $58.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($194) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $123.00</font>
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

Personally I wouldn't bluff on hand 1 because you don't have alot to work with. When I get called on the flop I would slow down on the turn unless I know that he would call the flop cr with 99.

Hand 2: Looks good, you should be able to get him to fold most mid pairs here. But bet more like 155.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

You are not really repping anything in hand 1, maybe AA. I don't think you would play AK/JJ/66/55 like that. If he is weak its fine because you bet big and he is probably not too strong.
I like the turn in hand 2 but only if he will not c/r you with draws.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

Hand 2 I don't mind checking behind then bluffing river if checked to (if you hit Q or T consider a thin value bet). Gives you more information to work with. He won't bet river with his mid pocket pair very often, and checking AK behind is quite plausible in this situation so he'll probably fold.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

I would raise the flop in hand 1 to 90. I don't mind a bluff there to mix it up since he's 3betting you pretty light. When he calls the flop, you have to be done with the hand though, he isn't folding TP in a RR pot.

Hand #2 is perfect, I also would have bet this flop after their preflop weakness, you can easily represent an overpair by that bet and get their face cards or connectors to fold. I would bet a little more on the turn like $150-$160.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

Hand 1 I would fold QTs to the rr. Given that you didn't, this is a poor board to bluff with because it hits AK, and you will rarely ever (read: never) fold out AA/AK/KK here. You can obviously fold out many weaker hands, but the problem is that the cards you hold make it less likely he has stuff like AQ/QQ/TT. You also have no outs barring runner-runner. Just let this one go.

Hand 2 is okay, it's also okay to check the flop with likely six outs plus eight solid bluffing outs (aces and kings).
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

Hand 1: IŽd give up on after he called the flop. But like Rollin said, if he calls you down with weak holdings a lot then I might just fire another barrel on the turn.

Hand 2: Fine. Maybe IŽd bet more, like 140 or so. But the fact that the board changed makes a second barrel a good idea.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:25 AM
Spechel EDD Spechel EDD is offline
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

Hand 1: this spot sucks because I dont think hes calling the flop without a King or better which I dont see him folding after calling the flop rr. I dont think you would play AA like that here because you would 4-bet him pf and try to make it seem out of frustration. There really isnt enough you can rep here that would make him fold.

Hand 2: I like it.
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

no. 1 - NO
no. 2 - Ye... erm I mean no.

Just no.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: My two bluffs, need your opinion.

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Given that you didn't, this is a poor board to bluff with because it hits AK, and you will rarely ever (read: never) fold out AA/AK/KK here.

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I thought king hi boards were supposed to be good to bluff at.

That said, it seems to me the fact that he can put you on a flush draw means he'll call you down lighter.
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