Mayweather calls out UFC and MMA as a whole... - Page 9

mason55 · #81 05-08-2007, 03:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Qiu0KoJ-0

Mayweather, 50, and Lloyd Banks (and lots of big booty bitches) after the fight and 50's $1mil win.

Hoya · #82 05-08-2007, 04:04 PM

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yeah thats my point, the grappling is stupid.

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That's the sport. It isn't kickboxing.

ThaSaltCracka · #83 05-08-2007, 04:10 PM

Eh, its mixed martial arts. Kickboxing and boxing certainly are part of that. I said it numerous times already, I hate the ground game and the submissions. Its like watching collegiate wrestling, thrilling stuff!

KDawg · #84 05-08-2007, 04:28 PM

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Eh, its mixed martial arts. Kickboxing and boxing certainly are part of that. I said it numerous times already, I hate the ground game and the submissions. Its like watching collegiate wrestling, thrilling stuff!

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and with you wanting shorter rounds, the grappling may as well be eliminated and it just be called, mixed stand up arts. Obviously you haven't seen a good ground match and are just associating lay and pray with what a good ground game is

Assani Fisher · #85 05-08-2007, 04:38 PM

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Why do pro athletes try hard in the playoffs when the playoff bonus money is so insignificant compared to their normal salaries? Its because many world class athletes love competition and want to prove that they are the best.

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You are wrong, there is a lot of money at stake for the players during the playoffs of every pro sport. A great or poor playoff performance can have a huge effect on that players next contract, endorsements, tv ads, everything. They aren't just doing it for the love of the game, although of course thats a factor, they also know that if they put in a great performance they will get a lot more money.

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Ok, so what about an athlete that is set to retire after this year? Do you think he tries during the playoffs?

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Of course he tries. Obviously guys that are playing their last couple games are going to be inspired.

I never said that stuff like pride competition didn't motivate players, it does. I said that one of the reasons they put forth extra effort in the playoffs is because there is a lot of money at stake. It's just wrong to say that the money differential between different playoff finishes is "insignificant". It's large.

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fair point. I guess all I'm saying is this:

If FM truly belived that he could beat a MMA fighter in a MMA fight and he saw that he had many doubters, I don't think that he'd worry too much about money. Hes already filthy rich. Theres a certain pride factor that most pro athletes have that if you say they can't do something and they truly believe that they can that they'd set out to prove you wrong.

ThaSaltCracka · #86 05-08-2007, 04:41 PM

KDawg, I have seen plenty of UFC. Surely one of the many fights I have seen can be classified as a good ground game. SURELY. Maybe ground game isn't my bag, I just find it all boring. Too much stalling. The only time its even mildly exiciting is when there are reversals. Maybe the ability to pin someone would make it more exciting.

Assani Fisher · #87 05-08-2007, 04:41 PM

I actually like it with no rounds and no time limit- makes it more like a real fight.

Of course you have to stand them up if they're stalling on the ground.

KDawg · #88 05-08-2007, 05:07 PM

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KDawg, I have seen plenty of UFC. Surely one of the many fights I have seen can be classified as a good ground game. SURELY. Maybe ground game isn't my bag, I just find it all boring. Too much stalling. The only time its even mildly exiciting is when there are reversals. Maybe the ability to pin someone would make it more exciting.

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did u see the Kendall Grove/Ed Herman TuF final or the Nick Diaz/Karo Parisyan match from the past year. BOth of those are what I would consider great ground matches that have been done recently. If you have seen those and didn't get exicited in them,then, I don't know

ThaSaltCracka · #89 05-08-2007, 05:15 PM

surely I can be wrong. I did not see either. or maybe I did and don't remember the names.

MikeyPatriot · #90 05-08-2007, 05:39 PM

If you've only seen UFC, that's probably a reason why you find the ground game boring. NSAC rules don't allow for knees or kicks to the head of a downed opponent or stomps. I don't think the kicks/stomps are a big deal, but not allowing knees to the head takes a lot out of the ground game.

You might want to try and check out some Pride, specifically Fedor, LDO.